webeagle12 Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Twenty-four hours after two men were killed during a botched robbery in Reading, the corner store where it happened was open again for business Tuesday. Crowds gathered outside Krick's Korner, 1671 N. 9th St., and candles flickered on the sidewalk Tuesday. Two masked men armed with guns burst inside the store Monday afternoon. They were met by a man described by officials as a "concerned citizen," who witnessed the robbery in progress."He saw the first suspect with his arms extended, holding a large revolver, and he looked and saw a second suspect, also with his arms extended," said Sgt. John Solecki, Reading Police Dept. That citizen, whose name has not been released, called 911. When the two men came outside, they threatened him, and the tables were turned, said police. The store owner had no comment Tuesday, but former city councilman and store regular, Mike Schorn, spoke on his behalf. "He's so sad by the whole thing because it's bad for his business, and it's very sad for the obvious result," said Schorn.Alexander Garcia-Bialek was charged Tuesday, keeping his head down as he was led out of police headquarters overnight. Garcia-Bialek, 21, was picked up at his home in Fleetwood, and police are calling him the would-be getaway driver. "He was charged as an accomplice because he was involved in the planning of this robbery where they targeted that store," said Solecki. Garcia-Bialek is facing second degree murder and conspiracy charges. Police said they are confident no one else was involved in the robbery. Meantime, family members of the two masked men spoke out Tuesday. "It's not fair," said Virginia Medina, mother of 24-year-old William Medina, who police said robbed Krick's Korner store alongside 18-year-old Robert De Carr on Monday. The two men were shot and killed by a private citizen while leaving the store, and family members want to see charges pressed. "[William] had no right to lose his life over something that man could have called the police for," said Medina. "He took the law into his own hands and walked away scot-free." "How about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? How much worse is it going to get?" said Peter Ratel, Medina's cousin. The family members said they are hurt by comments suggesting the alleged robbers were "thugs." According to Medina, William was "no big hard criminal" and was rather a family-man who loved his young daughter. Robert De Carr was described similarly by his sister, Taylor De Carr. "My brother was a good kid," she told 69 News. While family members are demanding justice, police and prosecutors said the man who shot and killed the two suspects acted within the law. City police had a lot of investigating to do once they arrived on the scene Monday afternoon. They found the two suspects lying dead in the street and the private citizen admitting to pulling the trigger. "The majority of this whole incident was captured on video footage. We were able to review that video footage, and we also benefited from the fact that there were a number of witnesses," said District Attorney John Adams. After extensively investigating the incident, police determined the private citizen, whose name has not been released, acted within the law when he tried to stop the two suspects from fleeing the convenience store.Read more from WFMZ.com at: http://www.wfmz.com/families-want-justice-for-suspects-killed-after-robbery-of-kricks-korner-store-in-reading/-/121798/22819374/-/10u2xls/-/index.html#.UnqkHzeA0Ek.facebookConnect with us! Facebook/69WFMZ or @69News WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 The families are delusional, at the very least. xendrome, psmoked, Crimson Rain and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trag3dy Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Good kids often commit armed robbery, in my experience. Praetor 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted November 10, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted November 10, 2013 When the two men came outside, they threatened him, and the tables were turned, said police. There you go. The robbers weren't killed while escaping. They were killed while committing a second crime. WAQT 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Good guy wins. Reading is absolutely ######. I hate that city. I used to work near reading, always had my Glock and 2 mags. Guy got lucky everything on camera. They threatened him. They had weapons. Here in PA. If someone has a weapons and puts you in fear for serious bodily injury or death you can use force up to and including deadly force. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Yup. Here the second crime would just been sauce for the goose - he could have nailed them for the robbery alone. Fleeing Felon Rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 READING, Pa. - Twenty-four hours after two men were killed during a botched robbery in Reading, the corner store where it happened was open again for business Tuesday. Crowds gathered outside Krick's Korner, 1671 N. 9th St., and candles flickered on the sidewalk Tuesday. Two masked men armed with guns burst inside the store Monday afternoon. They were met by a man described by officials as a "concerned citizen," who witnessed the robbery in progress."He saw the first suspect with his arms extended, holding a large revolver, and he looked and saw a second suspect, also with his arms extended," said Sgt. John Solecki, Reading Police Dept. That citizen, whose name has not been released, called 911. When the two men came outside, they threatened him, and the tables were turned, said police. The store owner had no comment Tuesday, but former city councilman and store regular, Mike Schorn, spoke on his behalf. "He's so sad by the whole thing because it's bad for his business, and it's very sad for the obvious result," said Schorn. Alexander Garcia-Bialek was charged Tuesday, keeping his head down as he was led out of police headquarters overnight. Garcia-Bialek, 21, was picked up at his home in Fleetwood, and police are calling him the would-be getaway driver. "He was charged as an accomplice because he was involved in the planning of this robbery where they targeted that store," said Solecki. Garcia-Bialek is facing second degree murder and conspiracy charges. Police said they are confident no one else was involved in the robbery. Meantime, family members of the two masked men spoke out Tuesday. "It's not fair," said Virginia Medina, mother of 24-year-old William Medina, who police said robbed Krick's Korner store alongside 18-year-old Robert De Carr on Monday. The two men were shot and killed by a private citizen while leaving the store, and family members want to see charges pressed. "[William] had no right to lose his life over something that man could have called the police for," said Medina. "He took the law into his own hands and walked away scot-free." "How about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? How much worse is it going to get?" said Peter Ratel, Medina's cousin. The family members said they are hurt by comments suggesting the alleged robbers were "thugs." According to Medina, William was "no big hard criminal" and was rather a family-man who loved his young daughter. Robert De Carr was described similarly by his sister, Taylor De Carr. "My brother was a good kid," she told 69 News. While family members are demanding justice, police and prosecutors said the man who shot and killed the two suspects acted within the law. City police had a lot of investigating to do once they arrived on the scene Monday afternoon. They found the two suspects lying dead in the street and the private citizen admitting to pulling the trigger. "The majority of this whole incident was captured on video footage. We were able to review that video footage, and we also benefited from the fact that there were a number of witnesses," said District Attorney John Adams. After extensively investigating the incident, police determined the private citizen, whose name has not been released, acted within the law when he tried to stop the two suspects from fleeing the convenience store.Adams said the private citizen demanded that they stop and wait for police. He said when the robbers refused and pulled out their guns, the citizen shot them in self-defense. "He needed to defend himself because if he would not have used force, he himself may have suffered the wrath of those two gun-toting robbers," said Adams. Adams said he does not condone violence on the streets of Reading, but the man did what he had to do to protect himself. He also has some advice for those ever in a similar situation. "For the average citizen, if they did not possess a gun, making observations would be helpful, but be careful when confronting someone who has a gun. You have to be careful in these situations because no one wants to see anyone else get hurt," said Adams. In addition to being exempt from criminal charges, Adams said because of the Castle Doctrine, the shooter now has civil protection from being sued by the families.Read more from WFMZ.com at: http://www.wfmz.com/news/news-regional-berks/families-want-justice-for-suspects-killed-after-robbery-of-kricks-korner-store-in-reading/-/121418/22819374/-/item/1/-/f4osgnz/-/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 The family members said they are hurt by comments suggesting the alleged robbers were "thugs." If masked, armed robbers threatening others with gun aren't "thugs," then who is? yowanvista, Sadelwo, WAQT and 11 others 14 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinomian Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 If masked, armed robbers threatening others with gun aren't "thugs," then who is? Aliens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadelwo Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 "Good kids" don't go robbing people. If their families aren't that well off, they wash cars, mow lawns and pack groceries at supermarkets. I'm tired of this "they just needed a hug" mentality that's being increasingly touted. WAQT, psmoked, +Mirumir and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Good kids huh. Good kids would not rob a store with guns and point weapons at people. Someone points a gun at me, I assume they intend to use it. freak180, Gone, WAQT and 7 others 10 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfrog Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Their actions suggest that they were not good kids. FloatingFatMan and Lord Method Man 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webeagle12 Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1186913-families-want-justice-for-suspects-killed-after-robbery/ :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Reeeallly getting tired of people standing up for criminals when they get their ass waxed and trying to prosecute the law abiding citizens who were just defending themselves. Can't say I'm surprised however, this is the same country where you can sue McDonalds for making you fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 So the families want justice when there is no justice to serve? If the law says the victims (the person(s) being robbed) did not commit a crime in defending themselves, then there is no justice for them to serve. For there to be justice, a crime has to have been committed. Sounds like what the families are seeking is not justice, but revenge instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted November 13, 2013 Veteran Share Posted November 13, 2013 Topics merged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted November 13, 2013 MVC Share Posted November 13, 2013 Seems like justice was served. Crimson Rain 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 The store owner had no comment Tuesday, but former city councilman and store regular, Mike Schorn, spoke on his behalf. "He's so sad by the whole thing because it's bad for his business, and it's very sad for the obvious result," said Schorn. I find that sort of mentality repugnant. :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I find that sort of mentality repugnant. :no: i do understand the owner, even if it sounds cold from his point of view; he runs a business and this kind of stuff doesn't bring costumers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Two less knobs in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blerk Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I find that sort of mentality repugnant. :no: Um.. why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I do not see the usual European anti-self-defense-with-firearms members posting in this one. I am surprised! Good kids do not perform robbery, and especially armed robbery. Lord Method Man, psmoked and Ian W 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praetor Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I do not see the usual European anti-self-defense-with-firearms members posting in this one. I am surprised! Good kids do not perform robbery, and especially armed robbery. sshhhhh... we're are sleeping in this part of the world, can't be bothered to post some anti-something right now, i'll check that in the morning. +Raze 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCracker Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Why is my original post first? I started this thread. What is up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Why is my original post first? I started this thread. What is up? Your topic was merged with a topic about the original story, that other topic came before yours so it is shown in chronological order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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