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CNN Breaking News: Only a measly 26,794 completed enrollment for the Affordable Care Act through Healthcare.gov. To put it in prospective, 26,794 people is about the population of  a medium sized town.

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http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/13/news/economy/obamacare-insurance/index.html?sr=fb111313obamacare4p

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If the website was actually working to full capacity 26,000 would be really really bad, but that number makes sense considering the issues

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My mom told me to sign up for it. I haven't yet.

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Oh America...you can't even do public healthcare right.

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Oh America...you can't even do public healthcare right.

It was fine until Obama Care

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Oh America Democrats...you can't even do public healthcare right.

fixed that for ya!

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CNN? Hmm, probably want to some different sources.  :rofl:

 

It was fine until Obama Care

 

I thought the health care system in America was always kinda screwed.

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I had no problems with my coverage until this month... our plan was classified as "too good" basically (it would of been classified as a Cadillac plan under the new rules, so to avoid the excise tax on it, we had to change the plan structure), we use to have zero co-pay for doc visits and $20 co-pay for ER visits which was waved if you were admitted to the hospital.... we were just told we NOW had a $500 deductible to fit into the current requirements..... great, now I have to pay WAY more to get the same coverage that I already pay $18,650 a year for, if I had kids under this plan we'd be almost $25k a year under a family plan.. (paid through employer technically, but that is the cost of the plan for me and my spouse)!

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CNN? Hmm, probably want to some different sources.  :rofl:

 

 

I thought the health care system in America was always kinda screwed.

 

It is. 

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fixed that for ya!

Republicans do public health care?  I thought their opinion was 'just die already.'

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It was fine until Obama Care

 

Whatever you had I want some of that because it was nowhere near fine. 

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This is domestic politics, surely? 

 

Similar story was also posted yesterday. 

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Whatever you had I want some of that because it was nowhere near fine. 

It was still better

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This is domestic politics, surely? 

 

Similar story was also posted yesterday.

 This is a new news story because the figures were released today.

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Fewer than 27,000 Americans selected an insurance plan through the federal healthcare.gov site, which is handling enrollment for 36 states, according to figures released Wednesday by the Obama administration.

 

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so, its even less than 50K people?

this O-care are doomed alright.

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The problem for Obama, and his party loyalists, is that they have a very short period of time before the campaign for the 2014 mid-term election starts - literally just a few months. Then the nominating process for state offices, the House and Senate starts to be finalized in state conventions, caucuses and primaries.

The situation is this-

In mid term elections the opposition party gains seats 95% of the time. When there is a contentious issue this can be extreme- a wave election where many of the Presidents party are voted out at the national and state levels.

House: the entire House is up for reelection, but politicos on all sides agree that for structural reasons there is little doubt Republicans will hold it - quite possibly expanding their majority.

Senate: 1/3 of the Senate is up, and nearly half of these are Democrats in conservative or conservative-leaning swing states. 15 of these are those who had an emergency meeting with Obama and came out unsatisfied. They are in deep trouble and know it. If only a few of these seats are lost the Senate goes Republican too.

States: Republicans already hold a majority of state governments, and people losing there insurance is going to be cannon fodder against Obama supporting Democrats. In the 2010 Republican wave election Democrats lost >500 state legislative seats and several governorships - and Obamacare was the main issue.

Nationally: Obama's support is now under 40% in polls that over-sample Democrats. Not good. His personal favorability had cratered with >50% viewing him negatively. His stonewalling changes to Obamacare just before it's epic fail have people re-examining who was at fault in the budget fight.

Some political analysts are already saying if no fix is in sight before the campaign, the ads for which are writing themselves, it could be a Republican wave election akin to 1994.

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This is pretty ridiculous :)
 
America's health care system was just fine if you were healthy and/or made enough money to pay for the extremely high pace of rising prices. To say it wasn't broken is like saying that the Titanic had a good voyage.
 
Most people didn't sign up for Romneycare (which Obamacare was based on) until the last month. It will likely be the same for Obamacare.
 
Everyone has until March 2014 to sign up, and most will wait until the last minute to do so. The vast majority of people just do nothing, because they're already covered.
 
All of this negative speculation about the overall solvency of Obamacare is coming from party loyalists who are simply just wishing out loud, because that's the last resort of the desperate :)
 
2014 will be about the Republican primaries and which ever Tea Party extremists make it through this time. Republicans will be more vicious and appalling in their actions towards one another than they ever have toward any Democrat, disturbing the more centrist majority of the party (this is already beginning to happen, by the way). There will be a lot of talk about social issues such as abortion, women's' rights, gay marriage, and immigration (and probably even rape again). All of which are losing topics for Republicans. Republicans are blamed by most Americans for the dysfunction in government already. Democrats will gain seats in the Senate and the House, and will get the majority of all votes for Congress, just like in 2012. This will set the stage for 2016, in which the Republican Presidential primaries will be a campaign of shock and awe of ridiculousness and "one-downs" that will make the primaries of 2012 look like the primaries of 1980.

 

No matter what happens in 2014 and 2016, it will be a gruesome spectacle of political theatre and savagery with rare comparison, which will become famous in the history of American civics.

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No matter what happens in 2014 and 2016, it will be a gruesome spectacle of political theatre and savagery with rare comparison, which will become famous in the history of American civics.

 

 

You guys do keep the rest of us entertained. Or horrified. I forget which one.

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thomastmc's analysis is very likely wrong. What will more likely happen is that Republicans as a whole will decide to sit back and let the inevitable Democrat circular firing squad form, then sell ammo. They've done it before.

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You guys do keep the rest of us entertained. Or horrified. I forget which one.

You must be part of the "Palin Nation" :rofl:

thomastmc's analysis is very likely wrong. What will more likely happen is that Republicans as a whole will decide to sit back and let the inevitable Democrat circular firing squad form, then sell ammo. They've done it before.

I'll make sure to comeback to my prediction often over the next year. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it and eat crow. If I'm right and you're wrong though, I'm sure you'll do what you always do and ignore it as if it didn't happen :)

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I am surprise it's that many considering how utterly broken healthcare.gov is.

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You must be part of the "Palin Nation" :rofl:

 

 

:o ...

 

 

I don't get the reference.  :blush:

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