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#61 PGHammer


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Posted 18 November 2013 - 23:52

It has, but so has every insurance. That's the reason things are out of control, the greed in the medical profession.

Greed?  Do you have any IDEA what a doctor (or nurse, for that matter) has to spend on their education?


Registered nurses - at minimum - have four years of education to sweat through (that doesn't count specialization, such as psychiatric nursing), then they have a licensing exam (at the state level).  Remember, that's the floor.


Nurse-practitioners, let alone full MDs, or specialized nurses (I mentioned psychiatric nurses earlier) have longer runs - up to ten years for some specialties (even in-demand ones like psychiatry or gerontology).  It's not cheap - a typical NURSE starts their careers nearly six figures in debt merely due to student loans - figure nearly $200,000 for nurse-practitioners or MDs (and I'm talking general practice for both - specialization has a taller debt load due to taller education requirements).


Yes - there ARE programs that offer near-full-ride or completely full-ride scholarships (in the United States - the Public Health Service Commissioned Corps is one, and the military's Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences is another); however, both require you to pay it back in sweat equity (a commitment to serve a certain number of years in particular capacities).  C. Everett Koop was respected as a Surgeon General because he was in the Commissioned Corps before - not exactly typical for a Surgeon General.  (No - it's NOT a requirement that you serve in the PHSCC before being nominated as Surgeon General; other than Koop, only Jocelyn Elders had served in the PHSCC before becoming Surgeon General.)


NO professional - in ANY profession - wants to be trapped under a mountain of debt forever; therefore, why would doctors OR nurses be any different in that respect (than electrical engineers, or any other sort of engineers, for that matter)?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 00:19

^and that beg another question, did medical educations have to be THAT expensive in first place?

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 00:55

Greed?  Do you have any IDEA what a doctor (or nurse, for that matter) has to spend on their education?


Yes, I do. I have several members of my family in the medical profession. It is an expensive affair, I agree. Most people in the medical profession are hardworking, caring people. That doesn't stop some/many medical employers from milking the government and insurance for every dime they can wring out, some even flat out lying about services rendered. That doesn't stop most hospitals from charging twice what they should, and some even billing the patients for huge amounts even after insurance has paid. That doesn't stop the drug companies from charging two prices for much needed medicines. My family members in the medical profession see it all happening every day, and are disgusted by it.