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#16 trooper11

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 16:13

Not every game will be, but most should.
 
On the topic of scalers anyway, did you look at the X1 COD pictures? A scaler can't simply work a miracle on a title below 1080p.


No it doesn't work miracles, but it does show that all scalers are not created equal and a good scalper can actually look better then not using one at all.

Clearly native is still better than scaling though.


#17 JonnyLH

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 16:21

im fairly positive the XBO version is 1080p

From looking at the video, and the close-ups, that's 900p.



#18 vcfan

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 16:34

Not every game will be, but most should.

On the topic of scalers anyway, did you look at the X1 COD pictures? A scaler can't simply work a miracle on a title below 1080p.


just pointing out the quality of the scaling of the ps4. even comparing the 720p of ghosts on the ps4(pre patch), hawkman pointed out in another thread that there is loss of detail when compared to the xbo version,which was clearly visible in the comparison shots. bf4 is scaled,whose to say future games are guaranteed 1080p? alot of current gen games are sub HD. scaler could become very important down the line.

From looking at the video, and the close-ups, that's 900p.

i used the same method DF uses to figure out native resolution,counting steps and pixels in the lines. how did you determine 900p from the close ups?

#19 Audioboxer

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 17:04

just pointing out the quality of the scaling of the ps4. even comparing the 720p of ghosts on the ps4(pre patch), hawkman pointed out in another thread that there is loss of detail when compared to the xbo version,which was clearly visible in the comparison shots. bf4 is scaled,whose to say future games are guaranteed 1080p? alot of current gen games are sub HD. scaler could become very important down the line.

i used the same method DF uses to figure out native resolution,counting steps and pixels in the lines. how did you determine 900p from the close ups?

 

All we have so far - http://www.examiner....00p-on-xbox-one

 

Playing advocate though don't you think if it was 1080p Ubisoft would be letting off fireworks to make sure everyone knew? Being one of the few 1080p titles on One that is.



#20 JonnyLH

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 17:05

All we have so far - http://www.examiner....00p-on-xbox-one

 

Playing advocate though don't you think if it was 1080p Ubisoft would be letting off fireworks to make sure everyone knew? Being one of the few 1080p titles on One that is.

Considering the images, and the confirmation there. I pretty much take that as 900p.



#21 trooper11

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 17:34

Well if it is 900p then that means both versions were 900p and Ubisoft is patching the ps4 version to 1080p.

So the X1 version is only getting the AA patch, not a bump to 1080p.

#22 soniqstylz

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 17:39

Patch is out

 

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Looks like he's flexing his butt.



#23 Houtei

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 17:44

So you don't care about image quality, that's nice i guess. Unfortunately for you however, many other people do.

Because resolution is the end all be all for image quality! /s   

 

That image was prolly more helped by the AA than the bump to 1080



#24 vcfan

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 17:45

All we have so far - http://www.examiner....00p-on-xbox-one
 
Playing advocate though don't you think if it was 1080p Ubisoft would be letting off fireworks to make sure everyone knew? Being one of the few 1080p titles on One that is.


the examiner article is not convincing. It is using videogamer as the source,and is basically assuming. You know what I'll try to find the exact same sequence in the 900p ps4 version and compare the lines I posted above.

#25 dangel777

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:03

Problem is, with all the focus on resolution we're going to get punished with the obvious downside - 1080p is going to make the consoles more likely to slow down when things get busy.   I think any game should balance resolution against fludity of gameplay (and the other things that effect IQ)  - stutters really nark me off and can ruin a game.  In these early games it's all the more likely given devs are dealing with new hardware and won't be getting the best out of it for a while yet.

 

I can see MS/Sony desperate to 1080p things to the detriment of the actual game simply because it's now suddenly a big PR item.

 

Put it this way, there's a good reason I don't use a 1440p screen with my PC - I want 60fps with all the eye candy on..



#26 Showan

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 18:08

So we have jumped from TitanFall, to CoD, to BF4, to AC, back to BF4???

 

 

I just watched a few different viewings of the Xbox One...

 

And after seeing the early stuff....  All I have to say is: Dear Microsoft, Thank you.  You have given us something different...  I don't care what CNET, Callaham (from this very Neowin site), Kotaku, etc have to say...

 

The One is going to be awesome.... I say the One will have gained a ton of functionality by 6/2014...  and that will only be scratching the surface...



#27 vcfan

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 19:59

so ign just confirmed the x1 version is 900p. its strange indeed how ubi was kinda bragging about working on a patch for the ps4 version to get the res up after the games went gold.

but anyways, ive made some 1080p comparison shots from the ign video. the scaler in the xbox one is magnificent. there is definitely more aliasing in the x1 version, mostly seen on lines that are far away.

 

x1:     http://i2.minus.com/iRLkfn0g98lFu.png

ps4:   http://i3.minus.com/ibtWQMHhMDxGiC.png

 

x1:     http://i4.minus.com/iqlcInxjd4N9q.png

ps4:   http://i2.minus.com/iRWVPpu4KqabV.png
 

x1:     http://i4.minus.com/iKoj7V5gD2Cqy.png

ps4:   http://i3.minus.com/ibtBlNT9naMkrA.png

 

x1:     http://i5.minus.com/i975IoGT8XUZp.png

ps4:   http://i4.minus.com/iblqzuWLmVSLIe.png

 

x1:     http://i4.minus.com/ibngNu3LzW6Kfd.png

ps4:   http://i5.minus.com/ib1dLqTRZWENT7.png

 

splitshot:  http://i7.minus.com/ibkUPkxwj8n94J.png

 

video:  http://ca.ign.com/vi...hics-comparison



#28 dead.cell

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 20:04

So we have jumped from TitanFall, to CoD, to BF4, to AC, back to BF4???

 

 

I just watched a few different viewings of the Xbox One...

 

And after seeing the early stuff....  All I have to say is: Dear Microsoft, Thank you.  You have given us something different...  I don't care what CNET, Callaham (from this very Neowin site), Kotaku, etc have to say...

 

The One is going to be awesome.... I say the One will have gained a ton of functionality by 6/2014...  and that will only be scratching the surface...

Didn't Callaham buy an Xbox One though...? :huh:

 

http://www.neowin.ne...ck-was-involved



#29 Showan

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 20:18

Didn't Callaham buy an Xbox One though...? :huh:
 
http://www.neowin.ne...ck-was-involved


My post came before Callaham purchase... Happy to see he got one though...