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#31 JonnyLH

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:21

What kind of apps do you need other than the media capabilities the console has and the apps already available on XBL?

 

Serious question, because I honestly don't see the need for apps on a Windows store for a device to play media. It's not a PC/tablet/laptop/phone. It sits in your media centre and plays movies/tv.

If everyone had that mindset then the app store boom would of never of started to begin with.

 

Using the store would mean anyone can deploy their software to that platform. Something I'm very interested in.




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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:31

Great idea but I would rather wait a year before buying an Xbox One and the price of the system drop by $100 to $150.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:33

Incredibly stupid plan if true, to be honest. The only thing the xbone offers that devices which already exist(and are cheaper) do not, is kinect. And that's hardly worth it. And to make matters worse for this idea, modern TV's themselves are able to do much of the same media stuff an xbox could. Further reducing the point of this second and gameless xbone.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:39

I don't see the point but reading the replies here seems like there is a market for it.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:41

Incredibly stupid plan if true, to be honest. The only thing the xbone offers that devices which already exist(and are cheaper) do not, is kinect. And that's hardly worth it. And to make matters worse for this idea, modern TV's themselves are able to do much of the same media stuff an xbox could. Further reducing the point of this second and gameless xbone.

 

 

Do you enjoy using modern TV interfaces? :p

 

And games shouldn't be too hard to do - streaming from local XB1, cloud streaming and basic games (i.e. those that run on the XB1's Windows side) would provide everything needed. Of course, you need an XB1 to do local streaming of more power-hungry games but this wouldn't be any different to the new PSVita. 

 

Kinect + Good interface + media + streaming would make for an interesting, and probably viable competitor to the Apple TVs, Rokus and PSVitas of the world. 



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:43

This is in response to PS Vita TV... that whoever came with that idea it was pure genius...



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:54

What kind of apps do you need other than the media capabilities the console has and the apps already available on XBL?

 

Serious question, because I honestly don't see the need for apps on a Windows store for a device to play media. It's not a PC/tablet/laptop/phone. It sits in your media centre and plays movies/tv.

 

Windows Media Center with PVR (not just an extender), also including the features of home server along with being able to use Windows 8 apps on your large screen with Kinect.

 

Personally my XBOX360's are currently just used as Media Center extenders/media players but my house is not a typical setup since most people don't have dedicated WMC PC's & Windows Home Server's so Microsoft coming up with a single box that has all the features of WMC & WHS for a decent price or a replacement cable or satellite box, I think would sell well



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 14:42

XBox One Lite with Kinect could be a great platform for remote play (like the Vita TV), media box, and maybe Microsoft Store for some light gaming, Angry Bird/Asphalt type of game.

 

Would require a lesser CPU/GPU and 32/64Gb of flash memory.  Could run the same interface of the XBox One.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 14:49

Hello,

I imagine mods and tweaks allowing games to be played on it.

Doubt it. MS will problably replace hardware with for example a (exaggeration) single core processor with 1GB to avoid this and at the same time be able to release it for a cheaper price. The "no gaming" limitation wont be software based, it will be hardware based.

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 14:50

Reminds me of Surface/Surface RT all over again.. Just go with one :D



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 14:55

If this is true it would almost guarantee that streaming services would no longer be behind a paywall.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 15:03

This is in response to PS Vita TV... that whoever came with that idea it was pure genius...


it really isn't. paul reported about this box way before ps vita was even revealed. they just decided on holding off releasing it at the same time as xbox one.
 

XBox One Lite with Kinect could be a great platform for remote play (like the Vita TV), media box, and maybe Microsoft Store for some light gaming, Angry Bird/Asphalt type of game.

Would require a lesser CPU/GPU and 32/64Gb of flash memory. Could run the same interface of the XBox One.

that's what I imagine it will be exactly. xbox one ui,tv stuff,media and xbox/windows store gaming and apps.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 15:16

Whoever thinks this will have WMC is mistaken. MS is phasing it out and no change in hell it ends up on this device.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 15:23

Why not just drastically reduce the price of the 360 to be an entertainment device. It has all the same apps and services afterall.

 

The price on the 360 can already be had for a few bucks more than an apple tv but the dashboard experience on 360 with the media apps isn't exactly a speed demon - if they can standardize on the xbox one ui / performance and maybe add  app support based on WinRT then that would be nice.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 15:24

Something like this would be the "killer app" if say for example you have an X1 and its downstairs and it could stream a game to your TV upstairs or something like that.  Would put a hurting on the steam box idea