+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted November 17, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted November 17, 2013 Voice commands work through this Try yourself if you already have your PS3. http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/basic/voice.html PixilEyes 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudtrooper Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 ok Wapoz and ZakO 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper11 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Oh really? Well then I'll give this some testing tonight. I really don't like that headset though, so it won't be very comfortable. From what I herd, the commands are pretty limited, so I'll see what I can get done with it. Thanks for the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintyV Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Oh really? Well then I'll give this some testing tonight. I really don't like that headset though, so it won't be very comfortable. From what I herd, the commands are pretty limited, so I'll see what I can get done with it. Thanks for the tip. Yup supposed to be very limited. It was even mentioned as a joke on the latest South Park. Thief000 and SecretAgentMan 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryster Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I have no desire to permanently wear what looks like a very uncomfortable headset just to get my console to load an app, pause a blu ray, search the web, etc. Also what about other people in the room? No thanks, I prefer the Kinect approach. spaceelf and spudtrooper 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Voice commands work through this Try yourself if you already have your PS3. http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/basic/voice.html It does voice commands, not voice recognition, major difference. Also, that. Seems awfully awkward when watching a movie and I want to pause it don't you think? Multi array microphone is somewhat more practical. SecretAgentMan and Thief000 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted November 17, 2013 Author Subscriber² Share Posted November 17, 2013 It does voice commands, not voice recognition, major difference. Also, that. Seems awfully awkward when watching a movie and I want to pause it don't you think? Multi array microphone is somewhat more practical. Where did I say voice recognition in my title or post? PixilEyes 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thief000 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Man, that earbud sure looks crappy. Sony sure is going for the cheap on the PS4. Is there a list of commands it can do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-T- Member Posted November 17, 2013 Member Share Posted November 17, 2013 Well that's me convinced, Xbox preorder cancelled soniqstylz 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper11 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I know some like the earbud style, but this mono set Sony bundled is terrible for me. It just feels cheap and uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Voice commands work through this Try yourself if you already have your PS3. http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/basic/voice.html Basically similar to a PC that does NOT use a mic built into a webcam. (Most PCs - and PC users - use microphones built into webcams for convenience, or due to them NOT having any other mic - it does not mean - and never has meant - that it's the only input that can be used. It can be voice-input or VoIP; in that respect, a console is not merely little different, but no different, than any other PC. I've had a separate microphone for use with applications since 1996 - the application and OS have been completely irrelevant as long as the hardware was supported. Windows has supported some form of voice control - albeit in rudimentary form - since Windows 9x; it can be upgraded by installing any version of Dragon Naturally Speaking supported by the Windows OS in question; the same applies to OS X. No; Windows 8.x - or even Windows Server 2012R2 - has NOT changed this, though why anyone would want to voice-control a server - other than because it can be done - would do so. To expect a console to be any different from any other PC in this aspect would be ludicrous.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Uhm.. for those saying they prefer the kinect approach.. users CAN buy the PS Eye, thankfully not included, and use it for the voice control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Uhm.. for those saying they prefer the kinect approach.. users CAN buy the PS Eye, thankfully not included, and use it for the voice control. I think everyone is aware of that, but even that doesn't make up for how poorly implemented voice controls are on the PS4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper11 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Uhm.. for those saying they prefer the kinect approach.. users CAN buy the PS Eye, thankfully not included, and use it for the voice control. I believe there are more differences at play here than just using an earbud vs the ps eye. I spelled those out in the other thread. Lets also keep in mind that this just wasn't an interest for Sony and so its not shocking that the feature would be lacking. I don't think we need to make this a defense of the ps4 or something about the X1. Its just about evaluating one features on the console. Hopefully everyone keeps that in mind. Showan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Man, that earbud sure looks crappy. Sony sure is going for the cheap on the PS4. Is there a list of commands it can do? PlayStation, repair. soniqstylz, Ryster, spenser.d and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I think everyone is aware of that, but even that doesn't make up for how poorly implemented voice controls are on the PS4. Considering voice controls aren't needed in the first place.. I don't see why it needs to have an amazing implementation. However, for those that do want it, I am sure they will be improved over time, as voice recognition/control is 100% software based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Man, that earbud sure looks crappy. Sony sure is going for the cheap on the PS4. Is there a list of commands it can do? Why is it ever post you make in regards to sony has to be bashing the ps4? The system itself is by no means cheap, it is a very solid build, plagued by manufacturing issues. The system and components are great, and the engineers that designed and developed did an amazing job with the ps4 and I can't wait to see what the future holds for this amazing piece of gaming technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper11 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Why is it ever post you make in regards to sony has to be bashing the ps4? The system itself is by no means cheap, it is a very solid build, plagued by manufacturing issues. The system and components are great, and the engineers that designed and developed did an amazing job with the ps4 and I can't wait to see what the future holds for this amazing piece of gaming technology. I'm sorry, but as much as I agree that no one should be bashing the ps4 unfairly, I think your going a little overboard yourself. The included headset is cheap. This does not mean the ps4 itself is cheap. Indeed, apart from some possible manufacturing issues, the console itself is built very well and it most definitely has the hardware to provide great gaming experiences. However, its not perfect and to ignore such things would be foolish. These consoles are amazing hardware wise, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking everything Sony or MS is doing here is an amazing achievement. Thief000 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'm sorry, but as much as I agree that no one should be bashing the ps4 unfairly, I think your going a little overboard yourself. The included headset is cheap. This does not mean the ps4 itself is cheap. Indeed, apart from some possible manufacturing issues, the console itself is built very well and it most definitely has the hardware to provide great gaming experiences. However, its not perfect and to ignore such things would be foolish. These consoles are amazing hardware wise, but lets not kid ourselves into thinking everything Sony or MS is doing here is an amazing achievement. I wasn't talking about the headset, I agree it looks cheap, and you said it was. I was talking about the ps4 unit. Not the headset that comes with it, and I don't think sony is "going for cheap with the ps4". I think it was definitely added last minute, as a "Well it had one too" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantpotato Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Considering voice controls aren't needed in the first place.. I don't see why it needs to have an amazing implementation. However, for those that do want it, I am sure they will be improved over time, as voice recognition/control is 100% software based. It's not 100% software based. Having a bad quality microphone will make it harder to recognise commands no matter how good your software is. Having an array of microphones will also allow you to isolate specific sounds and directionality. Thief000 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firey Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 It's not 100% software based. Having a bad quality microphone will make it harder to recognise commands no matter how good your software is. Having an array of microphones will also allow you to isolate specific sounds and directionality. My point was that new commands can be added, yes a decent mic or mics are required to get the best results.. but added functionality is 100% software. You can have the best mic in the world, but if the speech -> control isn't there it doesn't do you any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I wasn't interested in voice commands so it matters little to me, but seeing as that headset is also supposed to be the voice chat headset I'm inclined to ask our current owners if sony has sent out the patch/update, whatever, to allow Bluetooth headset communication yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Does it support the "Regulators, Mount Up" command? The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper11 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 My point was that new commands can be added, yes a decent mic or mics are required to get the best results.. but added functionality is 100% software. You can have the best mic in the world, but if the speech -> control isn't there it doesn't do you any good. Exactly. If the system isn't built with commands in mind, a good mic won't help you. You need a combo of good hardware and good software. A really good voice control system is not easy to pull off. You can put together a simple system with basic support without a ton of effort, but to really make it standout, you have to pit in a lot more effort. Thief000 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooper11 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I wasn't interested in voice commands so it matters little to me, but seeing as that headset is also supposed to be the voice chat headset I'm inclined to ask our current owners if sony has sent out the patch/update, whatever, to allow Bluetooth headset communication yet? They have not yet. The Evil Overlord and Thief000 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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