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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:37

I was thinking, would it be better if the console using a watercooling system instead of fans to keep it cool? I would not think it would be a lot more to do. The size would be bigger but you could get higher spec if they do it.




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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:14

Not sure, but I think that'd just make it more expensive.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:17

Hello,

I was thinking, would it be better if the console using a watercooling system instead of fans to keep it cool? I would not think it would be a lot more to do. The size would be bigger but you could get higher spec if they do it.

Servicing it, replacing it, and/or people drinking the water just spells expensive....

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:21

Not the mention the dodgy shipping handling people who would throw around your console etc, it would probably end up leaking by the time you get it :-)



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:33

since console are not typically overclocked, its probably not worth it, unless...., it has heat issues by design.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:45

why?



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 12:05

Sounds like a recipe for disaster, imagine as the consoles age something would eventually start to leak...

By all accounts the console is almost silent and runs nice and cool as it is.

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 12:06

My understanding was that watercooling was for serious overclockers who dealt with extreme amounts of heat. I doubt that is the case in consoles manufactured to particular specifications. Plus, given the heating issues of the last gen, those two companies should have paid close attention to any heat issues. One company in particular.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 12:42

This is just trying to find a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. The consoles have been designed to run at max CPU and handle the thermal load produced. I'm also sure they have some type of thermal protection built in, in the event of a fan failure.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 13:53

My understanding was that watercooling was for serious overclockers who dealt with extreme amounts of heat. I doubt that is the case in consoles manufactured to particular specifications. Plus, given the heating issues of the last gen, those two companies should have paid close attention to any heat issues. One company in particular.

 

Actually watercooling is more about noise than it is overclocking. 

 

you move the heat away from the CPU and cool it with a big silent fan on a big juicy radiator. and fully integrated watercooling systems for the CPU make them extremely safe and easy to install, no chance of leaking, you can literally throw it around like a nunchuck and it won't leak. 

 

as it is though, it just complicates the production of a console and makes it more expensive and complicated to produce and consoles should be produced so they'll be silent anyway. most of them use heat pipes anyway which is less efficient system that works similarly to watercooling allowing you to move the heat to a more central area with a bigger cooling surface and fan. 



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 14:01

Not really necessary 



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 14:05

I was thinking, would it be better if the console using a watercooling system instead of fans to keep it cool? I would not think it would be a lot more to do. The size would be bigger but you could get higher spec if they do it.

 

The cooling issue is completely overblown. There are laptops with smaller form factors and more power than the current consoles and they cool themselves with tiny fans. 



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 14:08

Here's my problem: Watercooling is great, but NOT for everyone.  And this is where enthusiasts lose the plot - the start solving problems that don't exist to push their chosen solution.

 

The sped/performance of the chips in question is a known variable, and the cooling is (should have been) built around that and so is (should be) perfectly sufficient.

 

Watercooling would push the cost up, it would push up maintenance, it would push up the likelihood of things going wrong.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 14:08

Actually watercooling is more about noise than it is overclocking. 

 

Since when? Most people doing watercooling are trying to achieve a higher over-clock and don't care about noise, because they are likely running a dual SLI 780 GTX setup, so the CPU fan is the least of their worries.



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Posted 18 November 2013 - 14:27

Since when? Most people doing watercooling are trying to achieve a higher over-clock and don't care about noise, because they are likely running a dual SLI 780 GTX setup, so the CPU fan is the least of their worries.

 

There are actually fans capable of outperforming or at least giving similar performance to the integrated watercooling systems and for cheaper. so all the integrated watercooling systems aren't sold to overclockers but to people who want silent computers. overclockers don't really need watercooling either, but the noise level can be pretty unbearable for a high end overclocked system. then again, overclocking serves little purpose today, for the price of overclocking you can buy an i7. games today don't even use i5's to their capacity and won't for the foreseeable future.  so for the money you spend on overclocking gear you could just buy a faster more stable computer.  the only ones who use i7's to the max, are those who use them for workstations, they need stability not overclocks. 

 

either way the end result is that WC today is generally a noise reduction thing. had you asked 5+ years ago back when watercooling was complicated and required you to put them together yourself. then yes, back then it was an overclocker thing. not so anymore, sure they still use them, but they're outnumbered by those who just want a silent computer today.