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#16 manroweb

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Posted 24 November 2013 - 11:05

I think since windows 8, our logins are optionally tied to our live account and password, i think that we send a request to the servers to make sure our password and username match the one on windows server. Now this is what i think, so it maybe wrong.

 

I don't think that is correct.

My Windows 8 was never linked to live account only ever local account, and with upgrade to 8.1 I stayed with local account, and did not link to live account.

I have noticed no slowdown at all.

 

 

I would try running disk cleanup, and get windows to cleanup the old windows files in windows.old folder. (click cleanup system files)

Also maybe worthwhile running ccleaner to clean up any other temp files etc left.

Would not hurt to run a malware scan with something like malwarebytes, just in case the 8.1 upgrade coincided with something else landing on your machine.




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Posted 24 November 2013 - 17:05

I think since windows 8, our logins are optionally tied to our live account and password, i think that we send a request to the servers to make sure our password and username match the one on windows server. Now this is what i think, so it maybe wrong.

 

I am currently using a local account only.



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Posted 24 November 2013 - 17:06

Have you tried making a new account on your computer just to see whether this issue affects your profile, or whether it is a global problem?

 

I will try this and report back.



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Posted 24 November 2013 - 17:10

I don't think that is correct.

My Windows 8 was never linked to live account only ever local account, and with upgrade to 8.1 I stayed with local account, and did not link to live account.

I have noticed no slowdown at all.

 

 

I would try running disk cleanup, and get windows to cleanup the old windows files in windows.old folder. (click cleanup system files)

Also maybe worthwhile running ccleaner to clean up any other temp files etc left.

Would not hurt to run a malware scan with something like malwarebytes, just in case the 8.1 upgrade coincided with something else landing on your machine.

 

No malware I have checked. Disk clean there is only log files so probably not going to do anything for my issue.



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Posted 24 November 2013 - 17:15

Have you tried making a new account on your computer just to see whether this issue affects your profile, or whether it is a global problem?

 

Ok I made a new user account and the login was instant, woot! Now how should I proceed? Delete my main account and remake it?



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Posted 26 November 2013 - 23:33

Ok I made a new user account and the login was instant, woot! Now how should I proceed? Delete my main account and remake it?

 

The new account was an instant login however after updating all my settings the same thing happened. Slow login 15-30 seconds. I think I will probably need to do a fresh install with a 8.1 iso.



#22 zhangm

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 06:08

The new account was an instant login however after updating all my settings the same thing happened. Slow login 15-30 seconds. I think I will probably need to do a fresh install with a 8.1 iso.


What settings did you update? Obviously what we don't want here is for you to do a fresh installation, only to see the issue reoccur.

#23 Gotenks98

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 06:46

Just do a clean install. All the time taken to troubleshoot this you could have just done a clean install and re-installed all the apps and data. Doing an upgrade is just asking for trouble in the long run. Those who do and have no problems you just got lucky. Even a guy at Microsoft does not recommend doing an upgrade. http://channel9.msdn...iag#time=03m30s. If you are worried about the whole doing a reinstall and getting the same issue, just use some imaging software to capture a full disk image of the system to restore back to if you still have the same problem.



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 18:40

What settings did you update? Obviously what we don't want here is for you to do a fresh installation, only to see the issue reoccur.

 

Background, set up chrome, windows live mail and other app settings; ie weather.

 

Just do a clean install. All the time taken to troubleshoot this you could have just done a clean install and re-installed all the apps and data. Doing an upgrade is just asking for trouble in the long run. Those who do and have no problems you just got lucky. Even a guy at Microsoft does not recommend doing an upgrade. http://channel9.msdn...iag#time=03m30s. If you are worried about the whole doing a reinstall and getting the same issue, just use some imaging software to capture a full disk image of the system to restore back to if you still have the same problem.

 

I want to but damn I just don't have the time right now. I would really like to get to the bottom of this.



#25 KENNY P

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 23:05

Are all your Windows Updates installed?

 

Also go to http://www.intel.com.../support/detect and check for latest chipset drivers.

 

What anti-virus software do you have installed?



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 23:37

i'm not having this issue.. my boot time is really quick



#27 zhangm

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Posted 30 November 2013 - 00:40

Background, set up chrome, windows live mail and other app settings; ie weather.
 
 
I want to but damn I just don't have the time right now. I would really like to get to the bottom of this.


I suppose the most methodical way to go about it is to create a few more new user accounts and apply different sets of settings to each. This should let you narrow down what settings or programs are causing the slowdown. While you try that, from your main account (the one that's slow), post a screenshot of your Startup tab in Task manager.

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 05:27

Are all your Windows Updates installed?

 

Also go to http://www.intel.com.../support/detect and check for latest chipset drivers.

 

What anti-virus software do you have installed?

 

All updates and using the default MSE/Defender.



#29 Mobius Enigma

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:45

Start by running SFC and then do a Disk Check on your Windows volume.

 

Running SFC will ensure that you or a 3rd party application didn't mess up anything that is essential. (Some of the 'Start' replacement programs can move around things or allow you to move around things that shouldn't be messed with.)

 

For example, if you manually change around default shortcuts in the Start Screen/Menu folders, it can create problems even with system updates, as this are considered 'System' files now and shouldn't be manually messed with.

 

You could also have issues with permissions in your User folder that some software will erroneously modify. This can slow down the login process as Windows attempts to access a specific folder and then has to give up and use a virtualized location instead.

 

If this doesn't help, try creating a new account as a test, and then see if it logs in faster.

 

 

Not sure if this applies, but on a new upgrade or install, stay logged in for a while so that all the initial optimization can complete.

 

 

However, there is nothing different in 8.1 itself that should be causing a delay, in fact it should be faster than 8.0

 

Also, as strange as this might sound, using a MS Account should be faster, in additional to offering you the full experience of Windows.

 

A lot of Windows 8.1 functionality depends on a MS Account, even if you aren't big into the Start Screen/Modern Apps, there are other things like IE sync and SkyDrive Sync that help your experience on the desktop.  If you have more than one Windows 8/8.1 system that  you use, a MS Account will make things really nice as it can keep the majority of your profile sync'd between the systems, which even includes your desktop settings.

 

 

 

Yes, I use a local account and boot straight to the desktop.

 



#30 Mobius Enigma

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:50

Just do a clean install. All the time taken to troubleshoot this you could have just done a clean install and re-installed all the apps and data. Doing an upgrade is just asking for trouble in the long run. Those who do and have no problems you just got lucky. Even a guy at Microsoft does not recommend doing an upgrade. http://channel9.msdn...iag#time=03m30s. If you are worried about the whole doing a reinstall and getting the same issue, just use some imaging software to capture a full disk image of the system to restore back to if you still have the same problem.

 

I don't care what the 'guy at Microsoft' says, the difference between an upgrade and clean install is very minor with any of the modern versions of Windows (7/8/8.1).

 

Even for people that want a 'clean install', it is easier for them to apply the Windows 8.1 upgrade, and then do a Reset/Refresh to wipe out whichever level of user content/software they want.