sammy2 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Maybe in the next four years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Maybe in the next four years ? Lots of people have them so you could say they're affordable right now.... Do you mean until they cost the same as non-SSD and have the same capacity? Albert 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I guess it depends on YOUR definition of affordable? I grabbed 2 Kingston 120gb SSD V300 kits for $80 a peice @ Staples...probably not the fastest or best or coolest, but it boots Windows 7 in about 30 seconds. Albert 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotBored Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 How long is a piece of string? Phouchg, goretsky, Thief000 and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 They are affordable. goretsky, AJerman and Ian S. 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I think what the holdouts are - ahem - holding out for is for SSDs to reach HDD pricing (in terms of price for capacity). That will happen when HDD prices start to go up. (Yes - I am quite serious, but not for the expected reason.) Even though SSD pricing is still headed down, it is not as mature a technology as HDD tech is; therefore, on a price for capacity basis, SSDs plain and simply will NEVER - as in ever - catch that of HDDs unless HDD pricing goes up. (While the Kingston V300 is no Samsung 840 Pro, it's no slouch, and $80USD is a very good price, even, if not especially, for Staples.) The same Kingstons, along with the SAMSUNG 840 standard, are $10 more at MicroCenter, while the 840 EVO and Intel 530 kits are $20 more than your Kingstons were (also at MicroCenter). I'm holding out, but oddly enough NOT due to price (of the SSD) - I'm holding out because I want to get the other items in my build first. Other than the SSD, I have two items left (motherboard and CPU), and since a reinstall is a necessary, I'd prefer only doing that once. goretsky 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I think what the holdouts are - ahem - holding out for is for SSDs to reach HDD pricing (in terms of price for capacity). There's really nothing keeping people from using one of each. I have two SSDs and an HD in this box and one SSD and an HD in the other box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 What do you consider affordable? If you can afford a HDD, you can probably afford a SSD. I don't think some people understand the idea of using SSD's as boot drive and using HDD's for data storage - these are the people that still hang on to HDD's and think SSD's are too expensive. thomastmc and monknster 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I think what the holdouts are - ahem - holding out for is for SSDs to reach HDD pricing (in terms of price for capacity). That will happen when HDD prices start to go up. (Yes - I am quite serious, but not for the expected reason.) Even though SSD pricing is still headed down, it is not as mature a technology as HDD tech is; therefore, on a price for capacity basis, SSDs plain and simply will NEVER - as in ever - catch that of HDDs unless HDD pricing goes up. (While the Kingston V300 is no Samsung 840 Pro, it's no slouch, and $80USD is a very good price, even, if not especially, for Staples.) The same Kingstons, along with the SAMSUNG 840 standard, are $10 more at MicroCenter, while the 840 EVO and Intel 530 kits are $20 more than your Kingstons were (also at MicroCenter). I'm holding out, but oddly enough NOT due to price (of the SSD) - I'm holding out because I want to get the other items in my build first. Other than the SSD, I have two items left (motherboard and CPU), and since a reinstall is a necessary, I'd prefer only doing that once. Yes, they are listed @ $119.99 right now, but that's with the stuff you need to transfer everything from a laptop to the new drive. The cables and an enclosure to plug the ssd into a usb port to transfer everything with the included software. There's really nothing keeping people from using one of each. I have two SSDs and a HD in this box and one SSD and an HD in the other box. Same here, both mine and my wifes computers have the Kingstons for the primary and a hdd for storage. I am waiting for the Kingstons to go on sale again to make a ssd primary, an ssd for games and then the hdd for storage. There is just something abot a Windows only drive that I really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy2 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 I am talking about SSD with 2tb capacity going for $140 etc or even less.. I don't think when you consider the cost of normal drives it's right to consider SSD unaffordable ... The truth is BF4 and CoD take up 80gb combined...my 120gb drive is almost maxed out.. I would love to be able to install a bunch of programs and games without needing to spend $400 and still not have enough space for music and movies...It's not affordable because you can't do what you would like with SSD alone.. I have a sammy 840 series--120gb.. 2tb and another 500gb .. But now i'm going to have get another SSD just to be able to keep my games..I had to move three games from my SSD to my HD just to have room for CoD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I am talking about SSD with 2tb capacity going for $140 etc or even less.. It's unlikely. The tech gets less reliable as it shrinks. Flash based SSDs will likely need to be replaced with a different tech for any major price movement. While we are expecting new tech within the next few years, it's impossible to say how long it'll take to affect the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I'd recommend installing and saving games to a regular hdd, ssd's have a finite amount of read/write I bought my Kingston 128, used at it was on ebay for a steal, checked it with ssd life and it had 8 or 9 years left in it, so for the price I paid, I'm not going to complain if you want quicker loading then don't settle for anything less than a hdd with 7200 rpm speed of course you can get the ssd for instant loading but again it is a lot of reading and writing during checkpoint saves etc... more so when one considers replaying missions, or the game itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrp04 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Why exactly do you need a 2TB SSD? Is a SSD + HDD solution not something that you could make use of? Going to be a looong time for SSDs to get that cheap. goretsky and 123456789A 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiranui Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Instantly, if you get a better-paying job. goretsky and DConnell 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goretsky Supervisor Posted November 23, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted November 23, 2013 Hello, In 1994, I paid $1700 for a 1.8GB HDD. Today, a 960GB SSD costs $600 on Newegg, which means you can buy a pair for $1200. At the rate the technology is moving, I suspect you'll see 2TB SSDs at $140 in about 3.5-4 years, however, SSDs will never achieve price parity with HDDs, simply because both will continue to decrease in price and increase in capacity. Regards, Aryeh Goretsky sammy2, Lord Method Man, The Evil Overlord and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy2 Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Instantly, if you get a better-paying job. student and what's affordable isn't based on what the upper middle class can afford.. Things are affordable when you don't need to be in a good job to afford it..especially for a one time purchase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 There's really nothing keeping people from using one of each. I have two SSDs and an HD in this box and one SSD and an HD in the other box. I'm keeping all my HDDs - the SSD will be only used for booting Windows 8.1 Pro - the other two OSes will remain on the boot drives they are on. Right now, I have my 1 TB WD Eco-Green as a dual-OS in a 66/34 split between 8.1 and 2012R2 - even with 8.1 moving to a boot SSD, that split will remain (with the old 8.1 boot drive section used for data and non-critical applications and games). I have no plans on moving either Steam or Origin to the SSD. OS X is on its own drive. I'm also carrying over GPU and sound card (nVidia GTX550Ti and Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatality Professional in PCIe, respectively) - though this particular sound card is a refurbished model, the purchase of a PCIe sound card was planned, as the X-Fi XtremeGamer has a hardware flaw. (It has a hardware-address flaw at the 4 GB memory barrier - in Windows 8 or 8.1, this results in unplanned BSODs - specifically, WHEA_UNRECOVERABLE_ERROR; Mom's desktop has more RAM than mine - 5 GB vs. 4 GB - which is why, out of character, she isn't getting this particular hand-down. Instead, I'm keeping my eyes open for another Recon3D Fatality Pro for her, as she is running Windows 7 Ultimate in x64.) Because my only optical drive is also SATA, that will carry over as well; keyboard and mouse (wireless USB) and printer (wired USB) also carry over, as does my admittedly long-in-the-tooth Logitech Communicate STX. My PSU (600W Diablotek) was a recent purchase and was planned for the upgrade, - yep; more carryover, as is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decebalvs Rex Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 SSD will be affordable when you can buy atleast 500 GB at the same price of a 1 TB HDD. 250 GB SSD's are just too expensive and they should force this tech into our throats , leaving crashes, slow loading , whitened programs and "not responding" behind. Those days will come but there will always be something faster on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiB3R Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Tha Bloo Monkee, The Evil Overlord, snaphat (Myles Landwehr) and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Rain Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 They are already affordable. You don't need a terabyte ssd. If you know what you are doing, even a 64GB is enough. Haggis 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. S. Veteran Posted November 23, 2013 Veteran Share Posted November 23, 2013 Speaking from a console player perspective, I wish 1TB SSD (and larger) were more affordable, since we can't rack up a bunch of drives in our PS3's (4's, etc.). Granted, their limited by their SATA-II interface, but it provide for quieter operation and no disk access lag on certain games (I'm looking at you, Yakuza 4!). I have a 1TB WD drive in mine but would trade it for a Samsung 840 EVO 1TB in a heartbeat (if I had the moolah). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachno 1D Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Depends on which price mark your matching solid state and mechanical drives to Devmer11, Phouchg, DConnell and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I have a few 128's and 256's on most systems here, can't say I find myself wanting a bigger one personally. My main desktop has a few terabytes of storage, but most of that stuff wouldn't really benefit from an SSD to begin with... games, movies, etc, not much benefit there. As a test a few weeks back I moved Guild Wars 2 and a few other games over to the SSD, the load time really didn't improve much.. it's there but not enough to justify the crazy cost of a terabyte SSD drive. Having the OS and "core programs" on it helps a lot, the rest, not so much, straight data like music, videos, etc.. not at all. I am curious about those hybrids I've been reading about lately though.. SSD for the OS, hybrids for the mass storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceelf Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 I have a few 128's and 256's on most systems here, can't say I find myself wanting a bigger one personally. My main desktop has a few terabytes of storage, but most of that stuff wouldn't really benefit from an SSD to begin with... games, movies, etc, not much benefit there. As a test a few weeks back I moved Guild Wars 2 and a few other games over to the SSD, the load time really didn't improve much.. it's there but not enough to justify the crazy cost of a terabyte SSD drive. Having the OS and "core programs" on it helps a lot, the rest, not so much, straight data like music, videos, etc.. not at all. I am curious about those hybrids I've been reading about lately though.. SSD for the OS, hybrids for the mass storage. You can get a similar effect with a cache drive like the Sandisk ReadyCache or whatnot. I'm getting one for a friend for Christmas. :) If that stuff had been available sooner I'd have likely not needed these drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Prowler Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Maybe in the next four years ? I have two 80GB Intel X25 SSD drives setting here looking for a good home. Make me a reasonable offer :) Bought July 2012, and pulled August 2013. Replaced with a single SAMSUNG 840 Pro 256GB model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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