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10.The driver did it.

In his book, 'Behold a Pale Horse' (1991), William Cooper claims that Kennedy was actually shot by his limousine driver.

9. Kennedy was accidentally shot by a secret service agent

In his 1992 book 'Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK', Bonar Menninger, suggests that Kennedy was actually killed by a fatal shot fired accidentally by Secret Service agent George Hickey, who was riding in the follow-up car.

8. The Umbrella Man

The Umbrella Man identified as Louie Steven Witt was holding a large black umbrella on a completely dry day. Some suggested this was a signal to shooters.

7. The Freemasons did it

Lyndon B. Johnson was allegedly a member of the Freemasons as was Warren Commission appointee, Gerald Ford (pictured). This has led to the suggestion that the secretive organisation was involved in the killing.

6. Lyndon Johnson did it

Who had the most to gain from the assassination of Kennedy? According to two books by Scottsdale attorney, Craig Zirbel, only Johnson, had the motive, the means and the opportunity to mount a conspiracy against the president.

5. Joe DiMaggio did it

An idea that first floated in DC Comics' 100 bullets, is the theory that baseball player Joe DiMaggio was behind the killing. The theory has gained traction with conspiracy theorists who suggest that the talented sportsman wanted to kill Kennedy in revenge for his allegedly ordering the death of his former wife Marilyn Monroe.

4. JFK Was Killed by the Federal Reserve Banks

In his book Crossfire Jim Marrs points the finger at Federal Reserve. According to Marrs the motive was to stop Executive Order 11110, which was a measure designed to curtail the power of the Reserve by replacing Federal Reserve Notes with Silver Certificates.

3. The Coca-Cola Theory

In 'Who Shot JFK? : A Guide to the Major Conspiracy Theories (1993)' by Bob Callahan and Mark Zingarelli, it is suggested that Oswald killed JFK because of a psychological problem caused by his addiction to refined sugar.

2. Jackie Kennedy did it

Conspiracy theorists often point to the Zapruder film, in particular frames 312-317 which show a puff of smoke next to the left side of the President's head. Theorists argue that as neither John nor Jackie Kennedy are smoking a cigarette the smoke must have been caused by some explosive reaction.

1. JFK was killed because of his interest in aliens

In his book 'A Celebration of Freedom: JFK and the New Frontier' author William Lester says that CIA documents released to him under the freedom of information act reveal Kennedy demanded to be shown confidential documents about UFOs just 10 days before his assassination.

Alien researchers have suggested that the documents add weight to the claim Kennedy was killed to stop him discovering the truth about UFOs. :alien:

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^ True -- fatal head shot from the 'grassy knoll'.

 

But some are saying that from the autopsy, there was a nearly same-instant shot to the back of the head.

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9. Kennedy was accidentally shot by a secret service agent

The accidental head shot was reported recently to have come from the CIA bodyguard in the rear of the tail vehicle who had just picked up an automatic rifle after hearing the first shot hence the difference in types of wounds.Oswald had standard rifle slugs which pass through the body whereas the CIA had full metal jacket shells that splinter on impact [video 2:14].

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Conspiracies make for good entertainment  but nothing else!

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The accidental head shot was reported recently to have come from the CIA Secret Service bodyguard in the rear of the tail vehicle who had just picked up an automatic rifle after hearing the first shot hence the difference in types of wounds.Oswald had standard rifle slugs which pass through the body whereas the CIA Secret Service had full metal jacket shells that splinter on impact [video 2:14].

Secret Service agent George Hickey.

 

He won a lawsuit in the 90's for being accused.

 

And actually, the fatal shot was a bullet designed to explode. ;)

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The Hickey theory was arrived at by viewing only the official Warren Commission evidence. There's no talk at any point of the front kill shot or even the windshield bullet hole.

 

The craziest theory is the official one.

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Atomic Wanderer Chicken, on 28 Nov 2013 - 00:06, said:

Conspiracies make for good entertainment  but nothing else!

 

Do you mean conspiracies or conspiracy theories ?

 

There have been lots of both and plenty still happening today, however conspiracies are not purely for entertainment.

 

Many conspiracies have taken place because of the terrible harm they cause and get covered up because of those committing the acts (for reference see the Catholic Church in Spain colluding with the adoption agencies to take away the babies of unmarried women who fall pregnant. Covered up for nigh on 50 years that was). 

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Are you guys interested in seeing the proof of the driver's shot?

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The craziest theory is the official one.

 

Always is. I guess people think it's so crazy it has to be the truth.

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Are you guys interested in seeing the proof of the driver's shot?

 

What proof? There's nothing but empty conjecture and tale spinning.

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What's a great about a case like this is the plethora of evidence and the web that provides access to it all. Hugh Betzer saw Hickey's rifle, which was not fired, and the driver's handgun, the weapon that killed the President. That's powerful corroboration by just one witness.

Betzner confirms that two guns were in the motorcade, one being the handgun that the driver used to assassinate the President and the other pulled by an agent in the follow-up car. The firecracker reference is a subtle way of saying a shot was fired in the limo.

JFK: Eyewitness statements, assassination of President John F. Kennedy, murder of J. D. Tippit and arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald: Hugh William Betzner

I looked down the street and I could see the President's car and another one and they looked like the cars were stopped. Then I saw a a flash of pink like someone standing up and then sitting back down in the car. Then I ran around so I could look over the back of a monument and I either saw the following then or when I was standing back down on the corner of Elm Street. I cannot remember exactly where I was when I saw the following: I heard at least two shots fired and I saw what looked like a firecracker going off in the president's car. My assumption for this was because I saw fragments going up in the air. I also saw a man in either the President's car or the car behind his and someone down in one of those cars pulled out what looked like a rifle.

I also remember seeing what looked like a nickel revolver in someone's hand in the President's car or somewhere immediately around his car. Then the President's car sped on under the underpass.

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JFK: Eyewitness statements, assassination of President John F. Kennedy, murder of J. D. Tippit and arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald: Hugh William Betzner

Many eyewitnesses reported hearing and seeing a shot inside or near the Presidential limousine. The driver, Bill Greer was seated two rows in front of and slightly to Jfk's left.

1.Bobby Hargis (Police motorcycle outrider, left rear of limousine):
Mr. Stern: Do you recall your impression at the time regarding the shots?
Hargis:

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[B]Jean Hill saw the SS shooting back[/B]. The only SS who could have shot back were the ones driving jfk.

 

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?

Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and[B] [U]I thought[/U][/B], because I guess from the TV and movies, [B][U]that it was Secret Service agents shooting back[/U][/B]. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so [B]I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, [U]they are [/U]getting him and [U]shooting back[/U][/B], you know; I didn't know.

Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?

 

Mrs. HILL - [B][U]I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back[/U][/B]."

 

Mr. SPECTER - And [B]you had the general impression that [u]the Secret Service was firing[/u] the second group of shots [/B]at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - [B][u]That's right[/u][/B].

 

[B]Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk[/B]. FRAME 310.

 

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You people really need to learn something about ballistics... :rolleyes:

 

Also, you lot seriously think that such a complicated plot as a presidential assassination by government agencies could be kept secret all this time?  These buggers can't even hide that they're tapping your phone calls...

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I guess all those analysts who recreated the shot using the same model rifle on a ballistic dummy at the same range were wrong then....

Come on guys, America leads the world in forensic technologies, pick one!

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LOL at thinking Jackie or the driver fired the shots, that's even more asinine then the general conspiracy in every way possible. 

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xesq49_jfk-assassination-films-orville-nix_news

 

[u]Advance to 1:09 for the close-up[/u]. [b]Robert Groden narrarates but ignores Greer's left arm movement and focuses on the headshot[/b].

 

I started looking at the Zapruder film in 7-09 and it went from there. [B]I got the closeup of Greer's arm going over in 9-2010. That's what's made it factual. I paid a guy a whopping thirty dollars to enhance it[/B]. Once that was clear this case was closed for everyone willing to look past all the nonsense that came before it. [B]If Greer's left arm really moved back toward JFK just the way it appears to in Zapruder, then he was definitely the shooter[/B]. They apparently had to create a cartoon of Greer shooting jfk, which is quite comical to say the least.

 

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Before killer Bill Greer shot jfk, he braked the limo to an almost complete stop. Notice the motorcycles and follow-up car suddenly stop.

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http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/27th_Issue/59_1.html
1) Houston Chronicle Reporter Bo Byers (rode in White House Press Bus)---twice stated that the Presidential Limousine "almost came to a stop, a dead stop"; in fact, he has had nightmares about this. [C-SPAN, 11/20/93, "Journalists Remember The Kennedy Assassination"; see also the 1/94 "Fourth Decade": article by Sheldon Inkol];

2) ABC Reporter Bob Clark (rode in the National Press Pool Car)---Reported on the air that the limousine stopped on Elm Street during the shooting [WFAA/ ABC, 11/22/63];

3) UPI White House Reporter Merriman Smith (rode in the same car as Clark, above)---"The President's car, possibly as much as 150 or 200 yards ahead, seemed to falter briefly" [UPI story, 11/23/63, as reported in "Four Days", UPI, p. 32];

4) DPD motorcycle officer James W. Courson (one of two mid-motorcade motorcycles)--"The limousine came to a stop and Mrs. Kennedy was on the back. I noticed that as I came around the corner at Elm. Then the Secret Service agent [Clint Hill] helped push her back into the car, and the motorcade took off at a high rate of speed." ["No More Silence" by Larry Sneed (1998), p. 129];

5) DPD motorcycle officer Bobby Joe Dale (one of two rear mid-motorcade motorcycles)---"After the shots were fired, the whole motorcade came to a stop. I stood and looked through the plaza, noticed there was commotion, and saw people running around his [JFK's] car. It started to move, then it slowed again; that's when I saw Mrs. Kennedy coming back on the trunk and another guy [Clint Hill] pushing her back into the car." ["No More Silence" by Larry Sneed (1998), p. 134];

6) Clemon Earl Johnson---"You could see it [the limo] speed up and then stop, then speed up, and you could see it stop while they [sic; Clint Hill] threw Mrs. Kennedy back up in the car. Then they just left out of there like a bat of the eye and were just gone." ["No More Silence" by Larry Sneed (1998), p. 80];

10) DPD Earle Brown---" The first I noticed the [JFK's] car was when it stopped..after it made the turn and when the shots were fired, it stopped." [6 H 233];

Greer pressed on the brakes in the Muchmore film. The brake light illuminates. 59 EYEWITNESSES ARE CONFIRMED BY 2 VIDEOS showing Greer brake during his second turn to shoot the already wounded President.

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I see someone has found a new home at neowin

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V. Palamara: 'Medical Reference' book (excerpt)

JFK Lancer

The damage to the cerebellum confirms the exit wound was low at the lowest point, but definitely extended to the Parietal bone, and likely to the Temporal region. That is consistent with the autopsy report.

1) Dr. William Kemp Clark, Chief Neurosurgeon:
WR 516-518/ 17 H 1-3 / CE 392 [undated summary; see also 21 H 150-152
:Clark's 11/23/63 report to Admiral Burkley with the verbatim summary .
In addition, see "Assassination Science", pp. 416-418: this is an FBI
report dated 11/25/63 which includes the verbatim summary to Burkley
from 11/23/63]---"..in the occipital region of the skull "; "There was a
large wound in the right occipitoparietal region "; "Both cerebral and
cerebellar tissue were extruding from the wound
.";

2) Dr. Malcolm Oliver "Mac" Perry, Attending Surgeon:
a) WR 521-522/ 17 H 6-7/ CE392: report written 11/22/63---"A large wound
of the right posterior cranium ";
b) Parkland press conference, 11/22/63 [see "Assassination Science", pp.
419-427; silent film clip used in "Reasonable Doubt" (1988), "20/20"
(4/92), etc.]---"There was an entrance wound in the neck It appeared to
be coming at him The wound appeared to be an entrance wound in the front
of the throat; yes, that is correct. The exit wound, I don't know. It
could have been the head or there could have been a second wound of the
head." (apparently, based off this conference, the Associated Press
dispatch on 11/22/63 stated that Dr. Perry "said the entrance wound was
in the front of the head
," while all the AP wires for this day stated
that JFK had a large hole in the "back" of his head.);

3) Dr. Robert Nelson McClelland, Attending Surgeon:
a) WR 526-527 / 17 H 11-12 / CE 392: report written 11/22/63---" a
massive gunshot wound of the head with a fragment wound of the
trachea The cause of death was due to massive head and brain injury from
a gunshot wound of the left temple.";
b) "St. Louis Post-Dispatch", 12/1/63---"This [the neck wound] did
appear to be an entrance wound."
c)e) 6 H 33-34, 35, 37 / testimony---" I could very closely examine the
head wound, and I noted that the right posterior portion of the skull
had been extremely blasted probably a third or so
, at least, of the
brain tissue, posterior cerebral tissue and some of the cerebellar
tissue had been blasted out
"; " there was definitely a piece of
cerebellum that extruded from the wound "; " the loss of cerebral and
cerebellar tissues were so great massive head injuries with loss of
large amounts of cerebral and cerebellar tissues "; "The initial
impression that we had was that perhaps the wound in the neck, the
anterior part of the neck, was an entrance wound and that it had perhaps
taken a trajectory off the anterior vertebral body and again into the
skull itself, exiting out the back, to produce the massive injury in the
head.";

4) Dr. Marion Thomas "Pepper" Jenkins, Chief Anesthesiologist [deceased
11/22/94]:
WR 529-530 / 17 H 14-15 / CE 392: report addressed to Administrator
C.J. Price dated 11/22/63 (the verbatim, retyped report, this time
addressed to Dean A.J. Gill, can be found at 20 H 252-253)---" a great
laceration on the right side of the head (temporal and occipital),
causing a great defect in the skull plate so that there was herniation
and laceration of great areas of the brain, even to the extent that the
cerebellum had portruded from the wound
."[see also p. 35 of Jesse
Curry's 1969 book entitled "JFK Assassination File"];

5) Dr. Charles James "Jim" Carrico, Resident Surgeon:
a) WR 519-520 / 17 H 4-5 / CE 392: handwritten report dated
11/22/63---"[the skull] wound had avulsed the calvarium and shredded
brain tissue present with profuse oozing attempts to control slow oozing
from cerebral and cerebellar tissue via packs instituted
."; "small
penetrating wound of ent. neck";

6) Dr. Ronald Coy Jones, Chief Resident Surgeon:
a) 20 H 333: handwritten report dated 11/23/63---" severe skull and
brain injury was noted as well as a small hole in anterior midline of
neck thought to be a bullet entrance wound air was bubbling through the
neck wound.";
b)a) 6 H 53-54, 56 / testimony (3/24/64)---" he had a large wound in the
right posterior side of the head There was large defect in the back side
of the head
as the President lay on the cart with what appeared to be
some brain hanging out of this wound with multiple pieces of skull noted
with the brain "; "what appeared to be an exit wound in the posterior
portion of the skull
the only speculation that I could have as far as to
how this could occur with a single wound would be that it would enter
the anterior neck and possibly strike a vertebral body and then change
its course and exit in the region of the posterior portion of the
head."; "The hole [in the throat] was very small and relatively clean
cut, as you would see in a bullet that is entering rather than exiting
from a patient.";

7) Dr. Gene Coleman Akin, Resident Anesthesiologist [a.k.a. Solomon Ben
Israel]:
6 H 65 and 67 / testimony---"The back of the right occipitalparietal
portion of his head was shattered
, with brain substance extruding."; "I
assume the right occiptalparietal region was the exit,
so to speak, that
he had probably been hit on the other side of the head, or at least
tangentially in the back of the head "; "this [the neck wound] must have
been an entrance wound ";

8) Dr. Paul Conrad Peters, Urologist:
6 H 70-71 / testimony---"It was pointed out that an examination of the
brain had been done we saw the wound of entry in the throat and noted
the large occipital wound ";" I noticed that there was a large defect in
the occiput It seemed to me that in the right occipitalparietal area
that there was a large defect
.";

9) Dr. Charles A. Crenshaw, Resident Surgeon:
a) "Conspiracy of Silence" (1992), p. 86 (and throughout [inc. photos of
himself])---"I walked to the President's head to get a closer look. His
entire right cerebral hemisphere appeared to be gone. It looked like a
crater---an empty cavity From the damage I saw, there was no doubt in my
mind that the bullet had entered his head through the front
, and as it
surgically passed through his cranium, the missile obliterated part of
the temporal and all the parietal and occipital lobes before it
lacerated the cerebellum
."; [p. 79] "I also identified a small opening
about the diameter of a pencil at the midline of his throat to be an
entry bullet hole. There was no doubt in my mind about that wound.";
b) "High Treason 2", pp. 110-115 and 549 (interviews of 7/12/80 [90?]
and 9/21/91)---" it was in the parietal-occipital area"; thinks the
body was tampered with at Bethesda
;
c) WC references to his presence on 11/22/63: 6 H 40 (Baxter), 6 H 31-32
(McClelland), 6 H 80-81 (Salyer), 6 H 141 (Henchcliffe), 6 H 60
(Curtis)+15 H 761: index;
d) Completely overlooked WC reference to his presence on 11/24/63: 21 H
265(report by Parkland Administrator Charles Price)---"Dr. Charles
Crenshaw was in the corridor and said they had been alerted. He said,
'You're not going to put him [Oswald] in the same room the President was
in, are you?' [i] told him I surely was glad he had thought of it and by
all means, not to.";

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If it's so obvious why aren't there mainstream media/people pointing it out?

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If it's so obvious why aren't there mainstream media/people pointing it out?


Good question. Because it's a simple truth that proves the highest levels of the U.S. government killed jfk. The mass media nor really any alternative media outlets will expose the real truths, the simple ones.

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