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Bullets don't produce smoke. They do, however, have the potential to create debris clouds.

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Bullets do NOT produce smoke! The only smoke is from the exploding charge from the bullet CASING, and that either stays in the gun or is ejected onto the floor.  Bullet's themselves are just a lump of metal,  either solid or hollow, and no NO way to produce smoke at all.

 

You're either lying, or are <redacted so I don't get told off>

 

Bullets do produce smoke. I posted two victims, not jfk where smoke was present at the entry point. There's a clear smoke present at the front of his head in all three jfk films.

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Since we're a tech forum, how do you feel about people who apparently create accounts here for no reason other than to copy/paste wackjob conspiracy theories in this thread?

 

Since we're on a tech forum, how do you feel about the fact that the driver shot jfk and you can't refute a single piece of evidence I've posted? The only wackjob theory is Oswald shooting jfk in the back of the head when he was clearly shot in the front of the head.

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Bullets do produce smoke. I posted two victims, not jfk where smoke was present at the entry point. There's a clear smoke present at the front of his head in all three jfk films.

 

OK genius, explain from where a solid piece of metal produces smoke, and exactly by what mechanism it is able to do so.

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I can't explain why or how it happens, only that it does. Here is four minutes of steel targets producing smoke at point of impact.

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.. That's not smoke produced by the bullets.. No wonder you believe such drivel as you've been posting if you think THAT'S smoke from a bullet..

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JFK was killed by his own administration/government because of his opposition to the Vietnam War. And just a lot of other things. He supposedly said he wanted to dismantle the CIA. The KENNEDYS WERE HATED, BIG TIME.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/jfk-assassination-marked-the-end-of-the-american-republic/5346419

LS: What do you see as the prime motive(s) to get Kennedy killed?

MB: To make a long story, which I elaborate in the book, short: JFK had made definitive steps to end the cold war. He had denied the involvement of the army in the Bay of Pigs invasion, which he had inherited from his predecessor, he had solved the missile crisis in Cuba through direct and secret contact with the Soviet-leader Khrushchev, he had ensured a nuclear test-stop with the Soviets, and he had ordered the withdrawal from Vietnam. All this against the will of the military, the CIA, and even against many members of his own administration.

LS: If one looks at the crime from the perspective of ?motive, means, opportunity,? which groups are the most likely culprits? Some of the usual suspects may have had a motive, but neither the means nor the opportunity, right?

MB: Yes. This is a crucial point with many JFK theories. A lot of people had motives, be it the hardcore commies in Russia, China, Cuba, be it the Israelis because of JFKs dismissal of nukes in Israel, be it the Federal Reserve because of his idea for a new US dollar backed by silver, the mob because of his dismissal to invade Cuba to get their casinos and brothels back, the racist Southerners because of his engagement for civil rights? but no one of them had the means and opportunity for the murder and above all the means to cover it up over the years.

LS: Which party had the necessary components of ?means and opportunity? available?

MB: Only the CIA and the military ? and the FBI and the Johnson administration for the cover-up. A moment after the shootings, a policeman ran up to the grassy knoll, his gun pulled out, and stopped a man there, asking for his ID. The man showed a Secret Service card and the cop let him go. Several other men on Dealey Plaza also showed genuine looking Secret Service IDs when asked by cops ? but there were no real Secret Service men placed on the knoll and the plaza this day.

These IDs were fakes but the FBI and the Warren Commission didn?t investigate this at all. Only in the 80s it came out who was responsible for the printing of Secret Service IDs and passes at that time: it was the CIAs Technical Division, headed by Sydney Gottlieb of ?MK Ultra? fame. This fact alone rules out that the mob or the Russians, Cubans, Chinese or some other autonomous killers did this on their own bill. And even if these groups would have been able to fake genuine looking Secret Service IDs ? the fact that this deception was not investigated, immediately brings Hoover?s FBI into a top-position of suspects.

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I can't explain why or how it happens, only that it does. Here is four minutes of steel targets producing smoke at point of impact.

 

That's not smoke. Smoke comes from fire. What you're seeing is the bullet disintegrating as a result of the impact with the steel, and the paint flying off of them.  

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i also doubt the old established theory that JFK was shot from back by Oswald, at least his head movement doesn't seem that way.

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Hello,

It's all my work.

No, it isnt. You are simply searching sites and copying/pasting information. Nothing else.

 

others said it sounded like one. The bleached object he's passing is some kind of handgun. My guess is a 38 revolver

OK so "others" said it sounds like one. Did you hear the shot yourself, meaning you were at the scene?

  

Not spam when the person is actually on topic and just sharing their info. What did your last two posts add to the topic? Nothing but trollish comments honestly. Speak only for yourself. Not everyone is bored of the topic. Very annoying when one person tries to speak for all.

Neowin states this:

Spamming is characterized by the initiation of threads or posts that contribute nothing to a forum, be it off topic or on topic.

To the Neowin forum, it reallly contributes nothing.

 

It's just copy pasta from conspiracy sites. Spam. He's making no attempt to discuss the topic or explain his theories. It's just a wall of reconstituted meat.

Nicely put :)

 

 

That's totally false, as all three jfk films produced a clear smoke at the right front of his head, where the driver's bullet entered. Of course a person like myself (telling an obvious truth) will be censored.

You arent censored becuase you are or are not telling the truth. You are censored because the owner of this site determined that the pictures you are posting are too graphic.

My suggestion is to tone it down because this thread will get closed.

And like many others have said, bullets do not produce smoke. Do you even know what a bullet exactly is? If you think bullets produce smoke and/or do not know what a bullet is, you have no support on any of the theories, which makes the rest of your posts hard to believe.

Take a look at this video. Might make you find out what was actually smoke, isnt:

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http://www.amazon.com/We-Were-There-...r_pr_orig_subj

It's little pieces of truth like this that make the internet so awesome. It is only logical that many people would have been willing say they saw the driver shoot jfk. This is one of the most obvious facts exposing government evil that has been found thus far. Imagining a world with more truth thrashing such as this is much less a dream than ever before. It's a real possibility if the willingness can extend significantly outward. Somebody refers to a specific person and the front excludes the grassy snow job. Greer provided an ironic photo a billion times over if the image was taken after the assassination?

In the Introduction, on page xiii, the author writes: "Late in this project, I came upon a startling revelation in Dr. Ron Jones's oral history. After taking his Warren Commission deposition at Parkland, chief counsel Arlen Specter told Ronald Coy Jones, https://www.google.com/search?q=rona...0QsAQ#imgdii=_

"We have people who would testify that they saw somebody shoot the president from the front. But we don't want to interview them, and I don't want you to say anything about that, either."

Nothing of value here December 28, 2013

By Alexander J. Marciniszyn

Format:Hardcover

In the Introduction, on page xiii, the author writes: "Late in this project, I came upon a startling revelation in Dr. Ron Jones's oral history. After taking his Warren Commission deposition at Parkland, chief counsel Arlen Specter told Jones, 'We have people who would testify that they saw somebody shoot the president from the front. But we don't want to interview them, and I don't want you to say anything about that, either.'" Not much of a revelation to anyone who's studied the Kennedy assassination in depth. This author just throws up his hands in a "what is history and what is real or not?" kind of way at the end.

Get a copy of Trauma Room One by Dr. Charles Crenshaw. Steer clear of this one.

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The driver shot jfk with a handgun, likely a 38 revolver fired from 6-8 feet in front of the President. The violent thrashing backwards was caused by the close range shot. That is McClelland's drawing of the exit wound.

John F. Kennedy Assassination Homepage :: Warren Commission :: Hearings :: Volume VI :: Page 38

This interview leaves no doubt about the right rear being blasted out and Greer's close range shot with a high velocity handgun. This silly interviewer quickly changes the subject after cerebellum falling out is brought to light.

Dr. Mcclelland. I think even then you could make the statement that this wound could have resulted from this type bullet fired through this particular mass of soft tissue, losing that much velocity before it exited from the body. Where you would expect to see this really great hole that is left behind would be, for instance, from a very high velocity missile fired at close range with a heavy caliber bullet, such as a .45 pistol fired at close range, which would make a small entrance hole, relatively, and particularly if it entered some portion of the anatomy such as the head, where there was a sudden change in density from the brain to the skull cavity, as it entered. As it left the body, it would still have a great deal of force behind it and would blow up a large segment of tissue as it exited.

But I don't think the bullet of this nature fired from that distance and going through this large area of homogenous soft tissue would necessarily make the usual kind of exit wound like I just described, with a close range high velocity heavy caliber bullet. This is why it would be difficult to say with certainty as has been implied in some newspaper articles that quoted me, that you could tell for sure that this was an entrance or an exit wound. I think this was blown up a good deal.

Testimony Of Dr. Robert Nelson Mcclelland

THE EXIT WOUND EXTENDED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE OCCIPITAL BONE. The force of the bullet pushed up the top of the head, but the bullet exited the right rear, as has been factual for many decades. That is McCLELLAND'S drawing of the rear blow-out. https://www.google.com/search?q=dr+m...w=1536&bih=748

Mr. SPECTER - Before proceeding to describe what you did in connection with the tracheostomy, will you more fully describe your observation with respect to the head wound?

Dr. McCLELLAND - As I took the position at the head of the table that I have already described, to help out with the tracheotomy, I was in such a position that I could very closely examine the head wound, and I noted that the right posterior portion of the skull had been extremely blasted. It had been shattered, apparently, by the force of the shot so that the parietal bone was protruded up through the scalp and seemed to be fractured almost along its right posterior half, as well as some of the occipital bone being fractured in its lateral haft, and this sprung open the bones that I mentioned in such a way that you could actually look down into the skull cavity itself and see that probably a third or so, at least, of the brain tissue, posterior cerebral tissue and some of the cerebellar tissue had been blasted out. There was a large amount of bleeding which was occurring mainly from the large venous channels in the skull which had been blasted open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q1lYifmUXA

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Any particular reason your spamming an 8 month old topic Ted?

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