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Almost four months ago, I reported that we will soon see biometric technology implemented, which will affect the way electronic information is handled, and now it has been confirmed by The National Journal that pilots unions have entered into what are described as ?high-level? and ?sensitive? talks with Obama administration officials to implement a system under which pilots would use a card containing biometric information.

However, this will not just apply to pilots, it will eventually apply to everyone as demonstrated in the video above. You can now kiss your privacy goodbye, because biometrics contain the most personal information that nature uniquely assigns each individual. We should also expect them to roll out the RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) chip that has been already developed.

By 2014, all Americans will be required to have electronic health records (EHR) which will include their height, weight and body mass index (BMI). This is part of the healthcare bill that Obama recently signed, and the Department of Health and Human Services has finally finished tying all the loose ends.

U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said, ?This will push our entire health care system forward,? as she compared the advent of electronic health records to electronic banking. ?Health information technology promises to bring that same transformation, convenience and reliability to the health care system,? she said.

The Obama administration warned that health care providers, including doctors and hospitals, must establish ?meaningful use? of EHRs by 2014 in order to qualify for federal subsidies. If they do not comply, they will risk getting penalized in the form of diminished Medicare and Medicaid payments. Under the Health Information Technology for Economic and Clinical Health (HITECH) Act of 2009, eligible health care professionals and hospitals can qualify for Medicare and Medicaid incentive payments when they adopt certified EHR technology.

To give you a little insight into how this works is, everybody will be issued a National Healthcare ID card that has an embedded RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) chip in it. Rather than get a card, some could choose to have the chip implanted in their body, perhaps the wrist, shoulder, or wherever the recipient feels comfortable with it.

This chip will have all your biometric information in it like fingerprints, face recognition, iris recognition and so forth. It?s purpose is to tie together your health records, bank accounts, financial records, credit history, criminal history and can track your movements throughout the country, just in case you attempt to hide from the government.

The government says the reason the RFID chip will have all this information is to pre-qualify who can afford what type of health services. In essence once the chip is scanned and it is deemed that you have enough money in your bank account to cover medical treatment, you won?t have to wait in line. If you don?t have the money, they can instantly pull your credit file using the chip, and determine how much credit to extend to you and at what interest rate, just like they determine the amount of student loans when you file electronically.

The whole purpose is to move us into a cashless society.

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I don't know how mine fell out.

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Where do people come up with this sh*t?

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Where do people come up with this sh*t?

 

Sounds pretty cool to me. I have nothing to hide.

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and it will takes days or less for this chip to be hacked possibility of information stolen / altered.

 

I don't see this happening 2014 due to the sheer backlash against it. 

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A biometric chip will just tell em Im dead,after they kill me to install it.

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Where do people come up with this sh*t?

I had an RL friend who tried to convince me this was gonna happen. Didn't believe him then, and still don't now.

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Here in .de a mandatory identity card with built-in RFID chip already exists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_identity_card

 

There was no major public outcry over this, nor have there been reports about the RFID chip being abused. Just saying.

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Imagine how easy it will be for someone to steal your identity.  They walk by you with a scanner and instantly have all the information needed for identity theft.

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Revelations 13 in the New testament of the Bible says it all:


 


16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:


17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


 


I'm not saying an RFID chip is the mark, but it sure is comming to a forehead of wrist near you!!


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Here in .de a mandatory identity card with built-in RFID chip already exists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_identity_card

 

There was no major public outcry over this, nor have there been reports about the RFID chip being abused. Just saying.

 

German <> United States

 

German has strong privacy laws, values, and a greater sense of trust of the government doing the right thing.

United States, not so much, especially with the recent string of NSA leaks.

 

If democrats forced this, and I don't think they will, this seems more right leaning conspiracy theory, they just be handing the republicans control of the presidency and the senate. 

 

At best I carry a rfid card that give allergy / medical alert to first responders (things you would wear on a medical bracelet), but no implants. 

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At best I carry a rfid card that give allergy / medical alert to first responders (things you would wear on a medical bracelet), but no implants. 

 

To be honest, ever since I saw a documentary about rfid tags being embedded in a guys hand, I've wanted one... but mostly for my own use, such as being able to sit down at my pc and it unlock and being able to walk up to my car and the doors unlock when I grab the handle.

I alrady have Bluetooth on my phone that does proximity to unlock my machine, but that's not for security, but simply convenience.

For my car, I already have a rfid on a card with push button start, and automatic door unlocking using the same technology.

However,, using the chip for my personal information that can be scanned by anyone... probably not into that, and as my girlfriend said, low-fi hacking.. they'll simply cut them out and swap identity with others.

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Here in .de a mandatory identity card with built-in RFID chip already exists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_identity_card

 

There was no major public outcry over this, nor have there been reports about the RFID chip being abused. Just saying.

People here b*tched and complained like crazy when a voter ID law was attempted to be passed.  Essentially it was a program that would give people a free ID that didn't have one.  I haven't the slightest clue why somebody wouldn't have an ID card, but they sure came up with some pathetic reasons to not want it.  So for that reason, I foresee an RFID chip having massive backlash.

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No doubt there will be some bulls**t in the news about helping to protect from terrorists and if you don't get an RFID chip then you will be considered a terrorist and on a bunch of watch lists, or get "visits" from various agencies.

 

Then as the article states it will be be linked to your bank records and will no doubt be GPS enabled so you wont need a passport. Of course it would be childs play to deactivate your rights to leave the country, or the state or to have no access to funding should a central source deem this and boom, you have no money, no rights to travel and you're stuck.

 

I fully expect a backlash about how paranoid this sounds but we have the technology and a large number of psychopaths in government and associated agencies no doubt salivating at the thought of a chipped up populace. All that black budget money has to go on something ;)

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I can't imagine a cashless world -- but I guess it will happen eventually.

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Lol, I work for the nation's leading EHR vendor, and trust me, the 2014 meaningful use guidelines don't include anything about chipping people. Not sure who comes up with this nonsense.

To be fair though, chipping can be very handy in case of bad accidents and such. I'd probably do it I'd it were readily available.

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why are people so scared of tighter security, most act like they are a bunch of terrorists or criminals. if you have nothing to hide what is the big deal. only guilty people hide and are scared of tighter security.

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why are people so scared of tighter security, most act like they are a bunch of terrorists or criminals. if you have nothing to hide what is the big deal. only guilty people hide and are scared of tighter security.

 

 

You dont need to be a criminal or anything else to expect a Right to not be viewed as one beforehand. While Im not in the boat that we have given up our current Rights as a whole, though there are examples of it happening slowly, I do think we are inching closer and closer to giving them up all in the name of security. "Security" which so far has shown to be more of a problem in recent years then a problem solver. I don't buy into this mandatory chip nonsense but at the same time Ill be damn if Id let someone force me to become part of it. 

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Revelations 13 in the New testament of the Bible says it all:
 
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
 
I'm not saying an RFID chip is the mark, but it sure is comming to a forehead of wrist near you!!

 

If you're not saying an RFID chip is the mark, why did you quote that passage?

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For medical information. Who is going to buy us the machine to scan it? Govt? If not then its a waste. Would it be in every person at the same location? If not, then again pointless.

I'm not going to sit there and scan you head to toe looking for it. You want to die or go home? I get you stable and at the hospital they can dig up your past medical history.

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If your passport features the following symbol, it means it has an RFID chip inside

 

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Countries with biometric passports:

 

  Biometric passports available to the general public
  Announced future availability of biometric passports
 
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why are people so scared of tighter security, most act like they are a bunch of terrorists or criminals. if you have nothing to hide what is the big deal. only guilty people hide and are scared of tighter security.

 

Sorry, but it is people like you that allow governments to get away with the crap they are trying to implement now.  I also have nothing to hide but I DO NOT want my government or any other tracking me or invading my privacy in other ways.

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So SecretAgentMan, what are you hiding from then? It is not people like me that causing this. This has been going on for decades but most just do not not know or realize this because most live in a plastic bubble. Nothing to hide, no problem something to hide then problem. Case closed.

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Hmmm... Demolition man realised into the real world.....

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I remember a while ago they wanted a RFID chip which works as a credit card, so you go to a shop grab something off the shelf and walk out and it gets automatically charged.

 

Sounds okay to me.

 

Plus gps data so if someone were to murder someone else, they'd know who was near-by. Someone gets caught trafficking drugs, they can trace their steps and find the source and others involved without needing to ask any questions. Burglary happens? RFID chip security scanners at home so you can instantly find out who it was.

 

Medical data, so if you were injured they would know your blood type, allergies, etc straight away and could begin life-saving procedures instantly if you needed it. 

 

I'm looking forward to be able to leave my house doors unlocked.

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