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#1 Mindovermaster

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 01:17

System is in my tag, running Debian 7 Wheezy.

 

1. Sometimes Minecraft locks up on me, and I can't get out of the program. I'm using XFCE, and I can't find anything that I can switch between different Windows. Like ALT + TAB. Doesn't seem to work.

 

 

2. Orange told me to put systemd on here, as I did. But whenever I want to Ctrl, Alt, F1, I see this on my screen:

Loading, please wait...
Systemd-fsck [343]: /dev/sda1: clean ###/#### files, ###/### blocks

The # means just random numbers. I can never log in with it, it just seems to sit there. Maybe this is more of an Orange question?




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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:54

Are you using OpenJDK? I'd try crappy Oracle Java instead as possible solution or to rule out java in particular.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:11

I've used OpenJDK 6 and 7 for awhile and never had any issue, I'm quite sure it isn't it.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:16

I've used OpenJDK 6 and 7 for awhile and never had any issue, I'm quite sure it isn't it.

 

Hey, I always suspect OpenJDK, it really does kind of suck. Enough so that Intel's code composer/parallel studio tools specifically whine and tell you to use Oracle Java instead when you start them ;-) That's always my first recommendation



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:23

Starting with Java 7, Oracle Java is based on the OpenJDK source code, at least from what I've heard.  Oracle Java 7 isn't even available in some Linux distro repos because of this.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:32

Starting with Java 7, Oracle Java is based on the OpenJDK source code, at least from what I've heard.  Oracle Java 7 isn't even available in some Linux distro repos because of this.

 

I've heard the same also actually. I was under the impression that OpenJDK7 was better than 6, but I'm not sure if it is any less buggy [than openjdk6]. It's more than just that it is based on it that it isn't available: Oracle changed the license so you can't distribute the binaries with package managers IIRC. In Ubuntu, there is a package 3rd party repository which grabs the src, compiles it, and installs it. 



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 14:56

yep i had problems with OpenJDK too

 

get the real java installed :p



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 15:17

Thank you for your help all, but this isn't exactly my question.

 

I am asking how I can tab out of that window. Let's leave java aside for the moment. And also the other thing.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 16:16

Thank you for your help all, but this isn't exactly my question.

 

I am asking how I can tab out of that window. Let's leave java aside for the moment. And also the other thing.

 

I was under the impression that this was more of a how to fix the lockup issue thread. You honestly may not even be able get out of it once it locks up. Are you sure it isn't locking up x11, in general, or something else when it happens (e.g. eating resources away)? I've seen games in Windows do that in the past when things go awry.

 

Maybe, the alt-tab issue is also an OpenJDK issue (I'm just kidding ;-)).



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 16:23

I remember in Windows, you could hit ctrl + alt + del and get out of that window.

 

But, I normally have Pandora up, and that was playing fine...



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 16:26

I remember in Windows, you could hit ctrl + alt + del and get out of that window.

 

But, I normally have Pandora up, and that was playing fine...

 

Look at that, I bet THAT is the issue:

https://wiki.archlin...yboard_grabbing

 

EDIT: not that the sdl fix will work with minecraft though.

EDIT2: Maybe the x11 nokeyboardgrab thing will work though. Just saw it.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 16:34

Can't seem to download sdl-nokeyboardgrab. I don't think this would be a fair solution, though.

 

I could probably just kill it from F1 (forgot name) mode, but as said above, I can't even get into that.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 16:48

Can't seem to download sdl-nokeyboardgrab. I don't think this would be a fair solution, though.

 

I could probably just kill it from F1 (forgot name) mode, but as said above, I can't even get into that.

 

Yeah, I think because the game is just hijacking the entire keyboard probably. This isn't downloadable though: https://aur.archlinu...nokeyboardgrab/ ?