Bully Calls News Anchor Fat, she responds on live tv.

[MorganX]

She was doing good, but toward the end, you could tell it was getting to her, thus giving the prick the response he desired.

 

Probably got to her because of the ignorance. People who have never been overweight or obese, rarely did anything to not be fat. They just aren't. Most people eat the same, in totality. Even bodybuilders and fitness competitors only starve themselves for 12 weeks at a time and still take hormones and other drugs to build muscle and burn fat because even they, don't have what it takes to do the work to actually get and stay in that type of shape, or lose significant amounts of weight naturally.

 

People who are obese have a different makeup that is genetic or developed during adolescence. It's really not that complex.

 

But human nature is that we feel better about ourselves when we put someone else down. Most "men" who are really nasty about overweight people, aren't adonis' themselves. They just aren't obese. It's a complex issue, yet very simple.

[Knife Party]

He likes his women with meat on their bones and not some skinny little thing you might "break"

um okay. Still don't understand but mkay...

[Rippleman]

um okay. Still don't understand but mkay...

thicker white girls > skinny white girls :)

[Yorak]

Probably got to her because of the ignorance. People who have never been overweight or obese, rarely did anything to not be fat. They just aren't. Most people eat the same, in totality. Even bodybuilders and fitness competitors only starve themselves for 12 weeks at a time and still take hormones and other drugs to build muscle and burn fat because even they, don't have what it takes to do the work to actually get and stay in that type of shape, or lose significant amounts of weight naturally.

 

People who are obese have a different makeup that is genetic or developed during adolescence. It's really not that complex.

 

But human nature is that we feel better about ourselves when we put someone else down. Most "men" who are really nasty about overweight people, aren't adonis' themselves. They just aren't obese. It's a complex issue, yet very simple.

Sorry, but you are incorrect. While we do have certain genetic modifiers that can make it a bit easier to put on weight, you would be surprised how unimportant they are in the grand scheme of things. People gain weight over 99% of the time (as I previously mentioned, and as AWilliams87 linked to) from overeating and sitting on their asses. You do not have to overly exert yourself, but go for a short walk every day. That makes a big difference. Bodybuilders do eat a lot, but they mostly eat protein to help promote muscle growth and healing. They do not eat a high-fat diet. Powerlifters are completely different. Maybe that is what you are thinking of? They are huge guys with strength, but they do not care at all about cardio.

 

Yes, some people have a hard time putting on weight. This is much more normal than for people to put on too much weight. ;) I am tired of hearing excuses. They are not built upon facts. Right now as I type this, I am still ten pounds overweight for my height. These are from my poor decisions in the past and nothing more. So I have been putting in the work to correct it. It does not take much. You do not have to go all out and only eat salad and no junk food. The key is moderation. Do you want a nice piece of cake? Sure, you can have one a week on your cheat day. Walk, run if you can. Weights are also very important, even for weight loss. The excuse I hear too often is that "I am too busy". Look, that thirty minutes it took you to devour that huge, greasy burger could have been spent eating a granola bar and going for a walk.

[+Warwagon MVC]

Sorry, but you are incorrect. While we do have certain genetic modifiers that can make it a bit easier to put on weight, you would be surprised how unimportant they are in the grand scheme of things. People gain weight over 99% of the time (as I previously mentioned, and as AWilliams87 linked to) from overeating and sitting on their asses. You do not have to overly exert yourself, but go for a short walk every day. That makes a big difference. Bodybuilders do eat a lot, but they mostly eat protein to help promote muscle growth and healing. They do not eat a high-fat diet. Powerlifters are completely different. Maybe that is what you are thinking of? They are huge guys with strength, but they do not care at all about cardio.

 

Yes, some people have a hard time putting on weight. This is much more normal than for people to put on too much weight. ;) I am tired of hearing excuses. They are not built upon facts. Right now as I type this, I am still ten pounds overweight for my height. These are from my poor decisions in the past and nothing more. So I have been putting in the work to correct it. It does not take much. You do not have to go all out and only eat salad and no junk food. The key is moderation. Do you want a nice piece of cake? Sure, you can have one a week on your cheat day. Walk, run if you can. Weights are also very important, even for weight loss. The excuse I hear too often is that "I am too busy". Look, that thirty minutes it took you to devour that huge, greasy burger could have been spent eating a granola bar and going for a walk.

 

 

Correct, when I started loosing weight and before I even got smart enough to change my eating habits, just using an exercise bike for 20 mins a day got me down from 220 to 190.

 

Once I changed my eating habits (low carb) along with walking it got me down to 163

[MorganX]

Sorry, but you are incorrect. While we do have certain genetic modifiers that can make it a bit easier to put on weight, you would be surprised how unimportant they are in the grand scheme of things. People gain weight over 99% of the time (as I previously mentioned, and as AWilliams87 linked to) from overeating and sitting on their asses. You do not have to overly exert yourself, but go for a short walk every day. That makes a big difference. Bodybuilders do eat a lot, but they mostly eat protein to help promote muscle growth and healing. They do not eat a high-fat diet. Powerlifters are completely different. Maybe that is what you are thinking of? They are huge guys with strength, but they do not care at all about cardio.

 

Yes, some people have a hard time putting on weight. This is much more normal than for people to put on too much weight. ;) I am tired of hearing excuses. They are not built upon facts. Right now as I type this, I am still ten pounds overweight for my height. These are from my poor decisions in the past and nothing more. So I have been putting in the work to correct it. It does not take much. You do not have to go all out and only eat salad and no junk food. The key is moderation. Do you want a nice piece of cake? Sure, you can have one a week on your cheat day. Walk, run if you can. Weights are also very important, even for weight loss. The excuse I hear too often is that "I am too busy". Look, that thirty minutes it took you to devour that huge, greasy burger could have been spent eating a granola bar and going for a walk.

 

Total bull****. BTW, Bodybuilders eat Hormones and cutting agents (mostly from the amphetamine family). When you address realities, I may listen to you.

 

A High carb diet is as likely to promote fat gain as a high fat diet, if your physical body makeup post puberty, predisposes you to it.

 

As for being to heavy for your height, based on what? BMI, which absolutely does not make any allowance for lean body mass? It basically tells you what you can see, if you're fat you're fat.

 

The fact that you would suggest that an overweight person, run if they can, instead of walking, to lose fat tells me you have no clue what you're talking about that. That's most likely why you are still overweight, if in fact you actually are.

[Yorak]

Total bull****. BTW, Bodybuilders eat Hormones and cutting agents (mostly from the amphetamine family). When you address realities, I may listen to you.

 

A High carb diet is as likely to promote fat gain as a high fat diet, if your physical body makeup post puberty, predisposes you to it.

 

As for being to heavy for your height, based on what? BMI, which absolutely does not make any allowance for lean body mass? It basically tells you what you can see, if you're fat you're fat.

 

The fact that you would suggest that an overweight person, run if they can, instead of walking, to lose fat tells me you have no clue what you're talking about that. That's most likely why you are still overweight, if in fact you actually are.

To be fair, I am 5'7" and around 14% body fat. I weigh around 165 lbs. right now, but I have a good bit of muscle. I am a Type 1 Diabetic with asthma, hypothyroidism and was born with hypopituitarism. So I think I am doing just fine. ;) It is not an excuse, as I said. I have no excuses. I still want to get to a very cut 155 lbs. or so. Also, I did not say a morbidly obese person should go run a marathon. I said if they can run, run. Walking still burns a good amount of calories though so it is better than nothing. Yes, I agree that a high carbohydrate diet is as likely to promote fat gain. Take a note though that many foods comprised of simple carbohydrates are also high in caloric content. I never said bodybuilders did not take hormones and amphetamines. I simply said they do not inhale pounds of fat normally, they focus on protein-rich foods. The fact that you are getting so defensive probably means you have your own issues to worry about. ;)

[MorganX]

To be fair, I am 5'7" and around 14% body fat. I weigh around 165 lbs. right now, but I have a good bit of muscle. I am a Type 1 Diabetic with asthma, hypothyroidism and was born with hypopituitarism. So I think I am doing just fine. ;) It is not an excuse, as I said. I have no excuses. I still want to get to a very cut 155 lbs. or so. Also, I did not say a morbidly obese person should go run a marathon. I said if they can run, run. Walking still burns a good amount of calories though so it is better than nothing. Yes, I agree that a high carbohydrate diet is as likely to promote fat gain. Take a note though that many foods comprised of simple carbohydrates are also high in caloric content. I never said bodybuilders did not take hormones and amphetamines. I simply said they do not inhale pounds of fat normally, they focus on protein-rich foods. The fact that you are getting so defensive probably means you have your own issues to worry about. ;)

 

I'm very defensive about this issue, I actually stay around 9% bodyfat, and most Steroid users think I am on them too. But when they see how much non-weight lifting exercise I do, and when I refuse to talk trash on normal people not doing drugs trying to get healthy, they know I'm not one of them. These myths leave a lot of people struggling and the drug-based fitness industry takes their money, and leaves them in the same shape they found them. An overweight person following instructions by bodybuilders/competitors who take drugs (99.9%) will actually get fatter after they carb deplete and starve themselves for 12-weeks.

 

Having said that, if you're at 14% bodyfat you're pretty fit and probably won't be able to maintain much less than that without starvation, dehydration, and carb depletion. Being ripped is usually a temporary thing. But still, 14% is excellent and I would say being diabetic helps. A diabetic's diet is actually conducive to fat loss/preventing fat gain.

 

FWIW studies have shown women prefer the look of 12-13% bodyfat, which is where most professional athletes are :)

[Syanide]

I have no issue with anyone's appearance or body weight, but what bugs me about this video is the tendency she displays to be victimized, I'm not sure the way she dealt with the situation would really help any bullying victims, or if they'd change any bully's mind (in fact it might work the other way around).

She either should have ignored him and not air this, or simply said publicly "so what." I mean, people make conscious decisions which probably aren't best for their health all the time (I used to smoke, I drink), but you should own up to those choices and either stick by them, or alter them, not pass the buck.

[redfish]

Genetics and other metabolic issues make for a very small percentage of obese people (less than 1%). We should not be afraid of hearing the truth. We should accept it for its value and choose what to do with it next.

 

Metabolism itself is a more complex issue than people make it out to be. Its variable, in the sense that its affected by things like stress and emotional state, and in the long run, by your habits, since habits create stress. So I wouldn't be surprised if most metabolic issues were influenced by controllable factors in the big picture.

 

I still think the guy writing the letter was an ass -- he was being a busybody, it was none of his business. Nagging people about things you think are their personal moral failings doesn't help them, it just makes them feel bad. And kids aren't going to get obese just because they see her on TV. He should have been ignored of course. 

[Arachno 1D]

I guess she could have quite easily ignored the email but in the long run even though it was a personal communication, she took the stance as a reporter to air the issue as a "representative" of those who undergo similar one sided discussions which stay generally undiscussed by the media.Be the facts explained so far by others right or wrong its not for me to say but I have no issues with her airing the topic to educate those who are oblivious to the harm snide remarks in these terms could make on others.

[astropheed Veteran]

I see two things here, neither of which are good:

 

1) The proper response to a bully is to ignore the bully, not make a big deal out of it and show how much it has effected you. Way to teach people how to handle the situation the wrong way. 

 

2) I saw a well written E-mail in response to a legitimate issue regarding this ladies obvious weight problem. Was it a rude email? Yes. Was it intended that way? No, I really don't think so. She is obese and she is setting a bad example.

 

 

Fat people are some of the worst types of people when it comes to positive reinforcement. You're fat, you shouldn't be fat, people are tying to help you not be fat, get over it. They act as if it's not a very serious medical problem.

[redfish]

She is obese and she is setting a bad example.

 

That's silly... people don't get fat because they see other people who are fat. And as long as she's paying her own medical bills, it doesn't really matter if its a medical problem.

[astropheed Veteran]

That's silly... people don't get fat because they see other people who are fat. And as long as she's paying her own medical bills, it doesn't really matter if its a medical problem.

 

When everyone around you is fat no one knows what 'fat' is anymore. To be classified as obese is surprisingly easy, this lady is morbidly obese. When people see her on the TV and take a look at themselves they'll think, "Well, I'm not so bad after-all", when they actually are. Telling someone they're fat shouldn't be a social stigma. It should be well received and adjusted. It's like telling someone they have an easily curable disease and instead of them going, "Where's the cure?", they get angry and defensive and that's what's truly 'silly'.

 

I understand there are some actual medical conditions related to weight gain and these are not the people I'm referring to. They have a legitimate reason to have the weight and they could just as easily say to someone, "I understand I'm fat but I honestly can't help it" in response to this concern. Case closed. No need for drama. When someone gets defensive it's because they know there is a problem and their lazy brain doesn't want to deal with it. I have no respect for that, at all; nor sympathy.

[redfish]

When everyone around you is fat no one knows what 'fat' is anymore. To be classified as obese is surprisingly easy, this lady is morbidly obese. When people see her on the TV and take a look at themselves they'll think, "Well, I'm not so bad after-all", when they actually are. Telling someone they're fat shouldn't be a social stigma. It should be well received and adjusted. It's like telling someone they have an easily curable disease and instead of them going, "Where's the cure?", they get angry and defensive and that's what's truly 'silly'.

 

I understand there are some actual medical conditions related to weight gain and these are not the people I'm referring to. They have a legitimate reason to have the weight and they could just as easily say to someone, "I understand I'm fat but I honestly can't help it" in response to this concern. Case closed. No need for drama. When someone gets defensive it's because they know there is a problem and their lazy brain doesn't want to deal with it. I have no respect for that, at all; nor sympathy.

 

Being honest about the issue and saying that fat is fat, being fat is unhealthy, and its usually because of bad habits, etc., definitely shouldn't be a social stigma. If we can't honest about it anymore, then it will harm people. But having a culture that's honest about it and doesn't lie to people to make them feel better also doesn't mean that everyone that's fat is an issue of public morals and has to be shamed. Honesty doesn't mean you have to stop being kind.

 

Yea, to be classified as obese is easy, largely because standards of what is obese and what isn't have been tightened so more people are considered obese than previously in history. If you look back at nude paintings from 100 years ago, most of the women, who would have not been seen as fat then, are seen as fat today. And that was in the Victorian era, when people were even stricter about morals than they are today, and overeating would be considered a sin, a sign of gluttony.

 

That's part of the problem, imo, because if the standards the culture have is ridiculous and everyone is expected to be skinny to not be fat, you're going to discourage people from losing weight and keeping the weight off. If we had more realistic standards that would help more people than hectoring fat people for being fat.

[+Warwagon MVC]

Being honest about the issue and saying that fat is fat, being fat is unhealthy, and its usually because of bad habits, etc., definitely shouldn't be a social stigma. If we can't honest about it anymore, then it will harm people. But having a culture that's honest about it and doesn't lie to people to make them feel better also doesn't mean that everyone that's fat is an issue of public morals and has to be shamed. Honesty doesn't mean you have to stop being kind.

 

Yea, to be classified as obese is easy, largely because standards of what is obese and what isn't have been tightened so more people are considered obese than previously in history. If you look back at nude paintings from 100 years ago, most of the women, who would have not been seen as fat then, are seen as fat today. And that was in the Victorian era, when people were even stricter about morals than they are today, and overeating would be considered a sin, a sign of gluttony.

 

That's part of the problem, imo, because if the standards the culture have is ridiculous and everyone is expected to be skinny to not be fat, you're going to discourage people from losing weight and keeping the weight off. If we had more realistic standards that would help more people than hectoring fat people for being fat.

 

Back in the Victorian era the ones getting pictures painted wanted to be fat. Fat meant you ate well, if you ate well it met you weren't poor and were well off.

[redfish]

Back in the Victorian era the ones getting pictures painted wanted to be fat. Fat meant you ate well, if you ate well it met you weren't poor and were well off.

 

Well, they weren't considered fat.

 

And, no -- being fat was considered being gluttonous. Ever read about John Harvey Kellogg, founder of Kellogg's? There was a whole health food craze during that era, which was an extension of the Social Purity movement. All sorts of cereal products were invented so people could eat healthy, and all sorts of exercise plans were promoted. Eating unhealthy was seen as the same as being promiscuous.

[123456789A]

She could lay off the potato wedges a little.

[Bryan R.]

Too often we, humans, forget that we are animals just the same as all others and are subject to the same fundamental behavioral and dietary constraints. Everything we have is built on these low level animalistic behaviors and we simply add complexity layers on top with words.

 

To equate "fat" from 100 years ago to "fat" now, well they may as well be completely different words. You have to consider that 100 years ago medicine wasn't more than bleed outs or whatever else nonsense they thought up. Consequently, the innate favor of bigger women has three reasons I can think of: a bigger woman is healthier (an ignorant assumption), wealth (obvious), and a larger woman, specifically one with large hips, could bare more children more safely. Also, obviously with that said, as medicine and diet were more known, being fat was learned to be extremely counter productive. What also came with better medicine is less complications and better maternal survival. So then of course society follows. We prefer thinner women because now we know they're healthier (ignorant assumption) and medicine can handle their delivery just fine. This is how our animalistic behaviors are responsible for our "complex" society. It doesn't matter what you call something. Obese or fat or gluttonous, you should not be. and everything in between can be classified as catering to feelings which is pointless.

 

There is much more to be said with scenarios other than weight but I'll leave it there while it's still relevant.

 

An interesting afterthought: When were feelings invented? What reason, other than to make you feel better in a time when you should not, do feelings (in the sense that they get "hurt") exist? Surely if you had every reason to be happy you simply would be so and not need to be propped up.

[Growled Member]

Back in the Victorian era the ones getting pictures painted wanted to be fat. Fat meant you ate well, if you ate well it met you weren't poor and were well off.

 

These social fads swing back and forth. I just wish we could find a happy medium.

[Skiver Veteran]

I know there are lots of arguements about BMI etc and I don't know much about you personally but speaking for myself, I was around 196 at my heaviest. I walked to work (30 minutes there, 30 minutes back) so by no means was physically inactive, based on the govt recommendations, I was double what I should do a day to stay "healthy", yet I was border line obese .

I had to seriously cut down my eating, joined a gym, went running etc and nearly a year on I have dropped down to 167 but still need to drop more to be classified as "normal" weight. I like my food, I also like the unhealthy stuff and carbs. I know I have relaxed my diet alot recently hence why I cannot shift the last few pounds. I also know that to get to what I want to be I have to be better with my diet which makes me unhappy, hence why I have yet to do it. 

 

Is it easy to loose weight, of course, is it easy to get to what society thinks is a "normal" weight? Not at all.

[game_over]

I know there are lots of arguements about BMI etc and I don't know much about you personally but speaking for myself, I was around 196 at my heaviest. I walked to work (30 minutes there, 30 minutes back) so by no means was physically inactive, based on the govt recommendations, I was double what I should do a day to stay "healthy", yet I was border line obese .

I had to seriously cut down my eating, joined a gym, went running etc and nearly a year on I have dropped down to 167 but still need to drop more to be classified as "normal" weight. I like my food, I also like the unhealthy stuff and carbs. I know I have relaxed my diet alot recently hence why I cannot shift the last few pounds. I also know that to get to what I want to be I have to be better with my diet which makes me unhappy, hence why I have yet to do it. 

 

Is it easy to loose weight, of course, is it easy to get to what society thinks is a "normal" weight? Not at all.

 

Eat healthy, work out, die anyway...

 

If people enjoy the healthy living thing then good for them, but i don't see the point in people forcing themselves to be someone they're not and generally just living in a unhappy way. I don't consider myself very healthy, i tried being 100% healthy and it makes me unhappy, so i'm going to live my life how i want and if i die a little younger, at least i'll die happy... Thats just me though, i'm sure there are plenty of people who are slightly over weight and are unhappy.

 

[Original Poster]

This is a interesting TED talk that obesity could  be nothing more than a side effect (like the skin turns black and blue when you get a muscle bruise) of blood sugar issues.

It's not a conclusion but seems to demonstrate evidence he wants to research and we may be going about diabetes <-> obesity the wrong way. 

In essence diabetes causing obesity, not obesity causing diabetes. 

http://www.ted.com/talks/peter_attia_what_if_we_re_wrong_about_diabetes.html

 

 

dont think that makes much sense diabetic people I know lose weight cause their bodies cant process the sugar and they just ###### it out

[Knife Party]

Rule 1 : Don't call a woman fat. Why? Most women suffer from self confidence issues, aka like most of us, but only x1000 (its been proven according to Scientology :shifty: ). Also duping a female into false belief of looking good is the kindest act of non selfishness....oh wait... :D

On topic : I've got mixed feelings, think she handled it well,but then again not so well.

[Skiver Veteran]

dont think that makes much sense diabetic people I know lose weight cause their bodies cant process the sugar and they just **** it out

The diabetic people you know are clearly not careful enough with their diet!!

 

What you are describing is called Diabetic Ketocidosis, when Type1 or advanced type 2 diabetics are not controlling their insulin correctly then the sugar in their blood stream cannot be converted to Glucose (the body's fuel) and starts to burn its fat supplies instead. When the body burns fat it produces and acid called Ketones, symptoms of a build up of this are things from vomiting, dehydration, (which comes back to your comment which I am assuming is supposed to say Urine, this causes people to drink more) with the more serious consequences moving into dropping into a coma and even death.

 

The above is down right dangerousand is asking for Darwin to give out another award.

With a correctly managed diet, you are just as suspetible of weight gain then any other person and actually is viewed as a common side effect of taking insulin. I don't know the full ins and outs of this but I suspect it is because of the potential sporadic and sudden nature of being able to abosrb and process the sugar in your blood levels rather than a natural cycle that a person with a fully functioning pancreas would experience.