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#1 Showan

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:33

I have had my Xbox One since since it dropped on day 1. My first game purchased was NBA2K14, a physical copy of the game.

While I do enjoy the game there is something I noticed, the game is designed to milk you dry. How? You ask. Simple there is a VC (Virtual Currency) shop in just about every menu of the game. Sure you can grind it out to earn your points, but but by the time you feel you are making progress, NBA2K16 will be on shelves by then (notice I skipped 2K15). The grind isn't the problem. It's the grind without reward, that's the problem. I can pay $2.00 and just like that stats (depending on what game mode you are in) can be improved for the better. Drop a $20.00 and you can improve drastically. Drop $40, and your a legend. No need to even play the game now. Yep, just like that. This zaps some of the fun away if you ask me.

I'm not into racing games at all, but I decided to borrow my friends FORZA while his Xbox One was being replaced by Microsoft. And what do I see standing out like a sore thumb. Yep you guess it. Buy some tokens, that way you don't have to grind it out. And if you do decide to grind it out, chances are your still not going to be able to afford the car you want.

We as gamers should not stand here and accept this from developers. The grind isn't the problem, it's that you much of nothing for grinding it out. It's seems like we have to pay the $60 tag for entry into the game, and then pay additional $$$ to get the full value of the game.

How ironic, it's Nintendo (whom I've been very hard on the past 5-months or so). That has not tried to milk our wallets for every dollar in it.

If the games are going to be free, then you can micro transaction your games. But you are not going to charge me $60 for entry and then another X-amount of dollars for progression.

Keep this garbage on Smartphones and tablets where it belongs.


#2 sammy2

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:39

Yeah it's everywhere. It's the new trend. 



#3 Praetor

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:40

Welcome to the new age of console gaming, where you don't event have to game (or grind) to achieve better results. It's ridiculous, games primary focus it's the entertainment value they have and the requirement time you spend improving your skills to achieve better results, thus getting better rewards. If this is skipped by paying for those results, thus getting rewards by buying them, then how come you are playing a game? Unless it's a stock market sim, i find this ratter unpleasant and unenjoyable.



#4 Rohdekill

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 02:56

I feel the consumers brought this on themselves.  People always complained it took forever to progress through the games in order to gather the added benefits.  As a result, the created a way for impatient people to obtain the benefit...at a cost.

 

The choice is yours to pay or not.



#5 madd-hatter

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:11

http://www.neowin.ne...-a-jaguar-xj13/

 

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#6 ReptileX

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:13

Topic related, I share this guys views on a lot of things included on what he has to say about micro-transactions in games. Both MS and Sony are guilty, it's no surprise since they're corporations

 



#7 Raa

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:15

Don't forget the increased price just to buy the game...



#8 greenwizard88

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:19

I never buy DLC, and I won't be participating in any micro-transaction economics. As is, I already dropped Microsoft due to their monetization of the dashboard and XBLG requirement for Netflix. If Sony does this crap too, I won't be using a PS5 either. I'm quite happy with Steam's "Big Picture Mode".



#9 seta-san

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:21

Micro transactions are fine. Pay-to-win isn't

#10 Elliot B.

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:48

I'll stick with Nintendo.

They generally seem to remember that gaming is about fun.

#11 Aheer.R.S.

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:50

I'll stick with Nintendo.

They generally seem to remember that gaming is about fun.

I'd have to agree and I'm not the biggest fan of nintendo



#12 Javik

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 03:54

It's pretty unfortunate to see this crap in AAA games, but then I won't buy any game that requires slow grinding for you to make any real progress.



#13 lassekongo83

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 09:14

Spot on. But I have to say that even grinding is bad. What's called achievements and trophies these days should give you in-game rewards (like it was in the past), not tedious grinding or microtransactions.



#14 HawkMan

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 09:30

I have had my Xbox One since since it dropped on day 1. My first game purchased was NBA2K14, a physical copy of the game.

While I do enjoy the game there is something I noticed, the game is designed to milk you dry. How? You ask. Simple there is a VC (Virtual Currency) shop in just about every menu of the game. Sure you can grind it out to earn your points, but but by the time you feel you are making progress, NBA2K16 will be on shelves by then (notice I skipped 2K15). The grind isn't the problem. It's the grind without reward, that's the problem. I can pay $2.00 and just like that stats (depending on what game mode you are in) can be improved for the better. Drop a $20.00 and you can improve drastically. Drop $40, and your a legend. No need to even play the game now. Yep, just like that. This zaps some of the fun away if you ask me.

I'm not into racing games at all, but I decided to borrow my friends FORZA while his Xbox One was being replaced by Microsoft. And what do I see standing out like a sore thumb. Yep you guess it. Buy some tokens, that way you don't have to grind it out. And if you do decide to grind it out, chances are your still not going to be able to afford the car you want.

We as gamers should not stand here and accept this from developers. The grind isn't the problem, it's that you much of nothing for grinding it out. It's seems like we have to pay the $60 tag for entry into the game, and then pay additional $$$ to get the full value of the game.

How ironic, it's Nintendo (whom I've been very hard on the past 5-months or so). That has not tried to milk our wallets for every dollar in it.

If the games are going to be free, then you can micro transaction your games. But you are not going to charge me $60 for entry and then another X-amount of dollars for progression.

Keep this garbage on Smartphones and tablets where it belongs.

 

Would you rather pay 120-180 for modern games with the graphics and work that's gone into them, or would you rather they "tax" the rich and stupid ? 



#15 soldier1st

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 09:49

I have had my Xbox One since since it dropped on day 1. My first game purchased was NBA2K14, a physical copy of the game.

While I do enjoy the game there is something I noticed, the game is designed to milk you dry. How? You ask. Simple there is a VC (Virtual Currency) shop in just about every menu of the game. Sure you can grind it out to earn your points, but but by the time you feel you are making progress, NBA2K16 will be on shelves by then (notice I skipped 2K15). The grind isn't the problem. It's the grind without reward, that's the problem. I can pay $2.00 and just like that stats (depending on what game mode you are in) can be improved for the better. Drop a $20.00 and you can improve drastically. Drop $40, and your a legend. No need to even play the game now. Yep, just like that. This zaps some of the fun away if you ask me.

I'm not into racing games at all, but I decided to borrow my friends FORZA while his Xbox One was being replaced by Microsoft. And what do I see standing out like a sore thumb. Yep you guess it. Buy some tokens, that way you don't have to grind it out. And if you do decide to grind it out, chances are your still not going to be able to afford the car you want.

We as gamers should not stand here and accept this from developers. The grind isn't the problem, it's that you much of nothing for grinding it out. It's seems like we have to pay the $60 tag for entry into the game, and then pay additional $$$ to get the full value of the game.

How ironic, it's Nintendo (whom I've been very hard on the past 5-months or so). That has not tried to milk our wallets for every dollar in it.

If the games are going to be free, then you can micro transaction your games. But you are not going to charge me $60 for entry and then another X-amount of dollars for progression.

Keep this garbage on Smartphones and tablets where it belongs.

This garbage should not even be on smartphones/tablets. Greed is #1 on every1's mind/agenda. which is retarded.