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#1 Tk1917

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Posted 07 December 2013 - 16:23

 

There is a big problem with the Android platform, and it has plagued it since its beginning; fragmentation. Due to the vast number of devices and device manufacturers out there consistent updates aren’t always delivered to every single device come every new version of Android. Now, this does make sense in certain cases; for instance, devices that are three or more years old would, as expected, be phased away à la natural selection. However, ever since the Nexus S Google has aimed, nay, made a pledge to guarantee software updates on their Nexus devices for at least 18 months from the device being released....

 

 

http://thebackbenche...e-android-user/




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Posted 07 December 2013 - 17:16

This article is nothing more than poorly supported opinions.

 

So just because it took an extra couple of weeks to get out updates for the N4 and N7, the nexus experience is bad now? This is a natural part of the process as time goes on, there will be more nexus devices they have to provide support for, so it will take a little bit longer. I would rather wait a little bit longer for a stable update than one with a lot of bugs.

 

With regards to not providing always on listening features on other phones, part it has to do with hardware, since it requires an S800 or chip that supports voice processing. While there are other devices that fulfill this requirement, it's too much trouble for google to have to explain to average users why their phone doesn't support certain features while others can. This adds a new category of fragmentation of user experience. So easiest way to remove this burden and confusion is to make it exclusive to a device they know will support it. By the time, Android 5.0 comes out, OEMs will make sure their latest phones will be made so that these features are supported and google can release these features to everyone.



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Posted 08 December 2013 - 01:40

 

There is a big problem with the Android platform, and it has plagued it since its beginning; fragmentation

 

I have 4.1.2 on my Note 2, and I haven't noticed any fragmentation.



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Posted 08 December 2013 - 03:07

I have 4.1.2 on my Note 2, and I haven't noticed any fragmentation.

Fragmentation is when there are many different Android devices out there that all run on different versions of the Android OS. Your phone being on 4.1.2 when the up to date phones are on 4.4.1 confirms fragmentation still exists. Is it as bad of a thing as some people make it out to be ? No.



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Posted 08 December 2013 - 03:20

 Is it as bad of a thing as some people make it out to be ? No.

 

Which was my point. Fragmentation is only a bad thing if it leads to problems, and it rarely does on Android.



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Posted 08 December 2013 - 03:50

Compared to iOS Android is barely fragmented, and Google doesn't release crippled versions of Android for older devices or remove features just to claim all devices are running the same version



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Posted 08 December 2013 - 08:46

Fragmentation like how desktop OS` come in many a flavour and service pack?

Like the people who dont upgrade there IOs devices?

Sorry but, can/could be said for pretty much every OS ever.

Invalid argument imho.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 02:17

Same stuff that has been brought up by several for years. Doesnt seem to be affecting/hurting the platform much...if at all.

Anyway, same old argument..different day.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 02:21

I'll just leaves this here: http://paulstamatiou...roid-is-better#

 

And this one is also something that you should see: https://www.youtube....h?v=buGpyCgqmfE



#10 +Aheer.R.S.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 02:29

I'll just leaves this here: http://paulstamatiou...roid-is-better#

Agreed, My wife has begged, pleaded, coerced and threatened me to trade my s3 for her iphone once she found out the syncing and podcasts were available via my phone and some were simpler, one touch affairs.

I find these fragmentation arguments laughable and a little annoying, it's not perfect, but then what os is?

 

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I just watched that vid you linked, some users have forgotten (I'm not saying you're one of them) that Symbian had most of those dating back to before Nokia N95, (If I remember correctly the 6630 had reject with sms, attatchment while composing, I never used video calling on 3g but it did have the option, just to mention 3)



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 02:29

Compared to iOS Android is barely fragmented, and Google doesn't release crippled versions of Android for older devices or remove features just to claim all devices are running the same version

i am sure you live in a world all of your own with the odd stuff you say here in the forum...



#12 tsupersonic

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 02:32

I think a lot of people make out the fragmentation to be more of an issue than it really needs to be. Having said that, I think Android update system could use some improvements. Being as we all want the latest and greatest, I wish Google could push the latest release quicker to the Nexus devices. 



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 05:12

i am sure you live in a world all of your own with the odd stuff you say here in the forum...


Prove him wrong then.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:42

Prove him wrong then.

i know you are good at math, fragmentation is a factor of products (X) Operating Systems (X) Screen resolution. When looking at andriod vs IOS, its a huge difference. Even with my nexus devices (4 and a 7 tablet) there are some apps the new kit kat just wont be able to download since the app is "not built for this version of operating system". And that started even with 4.3. On my iphone and ipad, i have not seen a single issue of this.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 13:24

i know you are good at math, fragmentation is a factor of products (X) Operating Systems (X) Screen resolution. When looking at andriod vs IOS, its a huge difference. Even with my nexus devices (4 and a 7 tablet) there are some apps the new kit kat just wont be able to download since the app is "not built for this version of operating system". And that started even with 4.3. On my iphone and ipad, i have not seen a single issue of this.

 

I have had 5 different android devices over the last 2.5 or so years.  Various resolutions, sizes, versions, aspects.  Never once experienced any issues.

 

Let me expand that: I have setup over 30 different devices of various resolutions, sizes, versions, aspects.  Never once experienced any issues.

 

I make no claim that fragmentation doesn't exist.  What I do state as fact is that it has never negatively impacted me or anyone I know using android.





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