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#31 adrynalyne

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 16:04

i know its not googles fault. I was mearly piont out the end possible result with many versions for devolopers to account for. Problems like this can't but not happen.

 

facts only for the people who hate apple which wouldn't be facts at all and only slanted opinions. I have seen no speed difference in many 3gs models going from IOS 4 to 5 to the latest 6. Also, I have seen no speed difference in iphones 4's, 4s's, 5's going from version 5 up to IOS 7... when he stated "cripple" that means something is not operating as intended. If a 3 gs (or even a 4) doesn't have Siri, then it isn't exactly "crippled" if Siri is left out of the update when going to  a newer OS since it didn't have it to begin with. A minus is only a minus if something is taken away.

I find you saying that you saw no speed difference going to iOS7 with a 4 a bit disingenuous.

 

 

It might not be a documented fact, but it is plastered all over the Internet about how iOS7  slows an iPhone4 way down.  I have personally seen it myself.




#32 adrynalyne

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 16:07

actually i 100% agree, but having said that, it is STILL the very definition of fragmentation... less versions = less possible conflicts = less worry from "does it work?" from devolpers

Android was destined to become fragmented.

 

If it wasn't the OS, it would be the hardware that would fragment it.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 16:08

I find you saying that you saw no speed difference going to iOS7 with a 4 a bit disingenuous.

 

 

It might not be a documented fact, but it is plastered all over the Internet about how iOS7  slows an iPhone4 way down.  I have personally seen it myself.

I do imagine it could slow down without a fresh reset. I did see the battery drain issue though. But again, with a reset, no drain. Althoght this may seem like back peddling, its is only the fact that one should always "reset" their phone after a new OS anyways. Should you have to? no, but it is what it is.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 16:11

actually i 100% agree, but having said that, it is STILL the very definition of fragmentation... less versions = less possible conflicts = less worry from "does it work?" from devolpers

 

There's an update to Android about one every 6 months, no more rapid than the release cycles for a lot of other software these days. The only alternative is to not release product updates and let your OS get stale and irrelevant.

 

Google should be commended for their approach, Android gets better and better with each new version, and the choice in devices is great for consumers. From what I've seen app crashes and problems are no more frequent than on any other mobile OS, this problem is simply overblown.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 16:20

a major app for me is a hugely popular classifieds site up here in canada owned by Ebay called "Kijiji", there are many others that i come across, would have to look up their names though.

 

For a while, it was hard for me to find Kijiji at all but not because there was no device support. It was because there was no official app.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 16:34

I find you saying that you saw no speed difference going to iOS7 with a 4 a bit disingenuous.

 

 

It might not be a documented fact, but it is plastered all over the Internet about how iOS7  slows an iPhone4 way down.  I have personally seen it myself.

 

I wouldn't. I'd call it what it is, a large pile of something not very true. :p



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 16:35

i know its not googles fault. I was mearly piont out the end possible result with many versions for devolopers to account for. Problems like this can't but not happen.

 

facts only for the people who hate apple which wouldn't be facts at all and only slanted opinions. I have seen no speed difference in many 3gs models going from IOS 4 to 5 to the latest 6. Also, I have seen no speed difference in iphones 4's, 4s's, 5's going from version 5 up to IOS 7... when he stated "cripple" that means something is not operating as intended. If a 3 gs (or even a 4) doesn't have Siri, then it isn't exactly "crippled" if Siri is left out of the update when going to  a newer OS since it didn't have it to begin with. A minus is only a minus if something is taken away.

Sorry I wasn't trying to imply you were, just quoting you as you answered me. 



#38 y2k2r2d2

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 17:00

Fragmentation is a necessary evil unless people change their electronics every  another month.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 17:25

For a while, it was hard for me to find Kijiji at all but not because there was no device support. It was because there was no official app.

its in directly in both the IOS store and Android store and would come up instantly as soon as you type it in and they are official. Curiosity makes me want to ask how do you usually search for apps?

 

link: http://info.kijiji.ca/android/



#40 Kreuger

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 18:51

 

its in directly in both the IOS store and Android store and would come up instantly as soon as you type it in and they are official. Curiosity makes me want to ask how do you usually search for apps?

It is there now, yes. Or maybe it always has been and didn't show up because my device was unsupported? I dunno. That was last year though.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 23:20

I do imagine it could slow down without a fresh reset. I did see the battery drain issue though. But again, with a reset, no drain. Althoght this may seem like back peddling, its is only the fact that one should always "reset" their phone after a new OS anyways. Should you have to? no, but it is what it is.

That's quite sad. I know a lot of people at iPhone 4's at work, who couldn't bear the slowness after iOS7. They were all due for contract renewal, so they just upgraded to a newer iphone. I know one coworker reset the device after the upgrade, and it was still plagued with so many issues. The fact that it got the latest updates is great, but a lot of the features are left out in iOS - so pick your poison. I would rather have a device that is stable, fast, and on an older version rather than an old device getting the "latest" updates with lots of missing functionality, slowness, battery issues, etc.

 

Plus, with Android power users, you can root and install ROM's on your phone. It shouldn't have to come to that, but it is an option to stay up to date, or you could install ROM's for drastically different reasons.  



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 00:48

Care to give us examples of apps exhibiting this problem? I have yet to see an app incompatible because it's 'not built for this version of Android'.

 

 

VLC player until they updated it to work on 4.3 but now it doesn't work right on 4.4 I get lock ups and CTDs when trying to play simple MP4 videos on my Nexus 7 2012 (which in now on 4.4.2)