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Yeah, standard feature on the new consoles.  I've heard you may have to have a good chunk of it downloaded first, but it likely depends on the game.

I don't have any figures for the XB (I wasn't sure if it supported it) - but I know Killzone on PS requires 12GB out of 40GB odd downloaded - which is still a sizeable chunk. Given the average UK broadband speed is still less than 10Mbps - that's still a good 2 and a half to 3 hours of downloading before you can even play. Heck, I live in London, and the highest ADSL speed I can get is 4Mbps (cabled streets are still hit and miss here).

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Being able to pre-download games before the official release date could be a option but we'll have to wait for some new games to hit the store first before we'll know for sure.  If it's not a option then it's something people should definitely be asking for.

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I am not looking to flame bait or anything here, but after waiting over an hour for a game to install enough to play it, I'm wondering if anyone sees a benefit to this install requirement over playing the game from disc.

 

I know that the plan initially was that we were not going to need the disc again after the initial install, and that was great, but with that scrapped, what benefits still exist?

 

What are everyone's thoughts?  I really like my XBox One, but am thinking it preferable at this point for Microsoft to change their strategy and play the game from disc rather than require someone eager to play a game to sit and wait an hour or more to install a game before they are able to play it.  It is really quite frustrating.  LOL

 

So, are there any benefits that I'm missing, or am I right in understanding that they all disapeared when they made their 180...?

 

I am hoping to have a rational discussion and don't want this to become a childish argument, so please no trolling.  :)

I agree with you 100%.. I just picked up an Xbox One and installed Forza.. It took forever and had to download a 6GB update.. When I play a PS4 Game, the game starts installing but you can start playing it almost immediately. 

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I can't get my maximum bandwidth over the Xbox One for some reason. Games should be downloading a lot faster than this on my 50meg connection. I started downloading NBA 2k, went to bed for 7 hours, woke up, and it progressed only 17%. That's not right.

Same here.. I am not getting anywhere near my full speed from them.. I wonder if their servers are just bogged down.. 

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I agree with you 100%.. I just picked up an Xbox One and installed Forza.. It took forever and had to download a 6GB update.. When I play a PS4 Game, the game starts installing but you can start playing it almost immediately.

I don't own Forza, but can you say how long it took before it let you play? I know you can start playing before it finishes the download.

 

 

Same here.. I am not getting anywhere near my full speed from them.. I wonder if their servers are just bogged down..

Have you tried uploading a game clip yet? I ask because I am seeing my full upload speed when its doing that.

I agree about the download speed, mine has been jumping around from close to max to half speed.

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For those with updates...keep your Xbox in standby mode so it can update while the console is "off". I know it won't happen if you are currently playing (but at least you can do something else at the same time...thank god). I had an update to Killer Instinct a few weeks ago and I thought I would have to wait but luckily it already updated for me while I was sleeping. Yes, pre-download will be the most necessary of features this generation.

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I agree with you 100%.. I just picked up an Xbox One and installed Forza.. It took forever and had to download a 6GB update.. When I play a PS4 Game, the game starts installing but you can start playing it almost immediately. 

 

How are the download speed differences, I know the PS4 is an insanely huge upgrade compared to the PS3 download speeds. I have a 100mbit line and it used to take hours to download a small update on the PS3. But now with the PS4 it finished downloading Warframe (4+GB) while I played a bit of Killzone (l was playing for less than 15mins, just trying it out).

 

I'm really impressed with the PS4 servers now, download speed is fantastic. It seems from the other posters here with X1's that the Xbox One download speeds isn't the greatest is that during certain times of the day or majority of the time?

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How are the download speed differences, I know the PS4 is an insanely huge upgrade compared to the PS3 download speeds. I have a 100mbit line and it used to take hours to download a small update on the PS3. But now with the PS4 it finished downloading Warframe (4+GB) while I played a bit of Killzone (l was playing for less than 15mins, just trying it out).

 

I'm really impressed with the PS4 servers now, download speed is fantastic. It seems from the other posters here with X1's that the Xbox One download speeds isn't the greatest is that during certain times of the day or majority of the time?

 

 

 

Over the past couple of days, I have been getting max speed for my downloads, so maybe MS has caught up with the new user load and speeds have picked up for everyone.

 

One thing that is different between this and the ps3 to ps4 difference is that the 360 already had great download speeds.  There was not much to improve on, so the fact that it has been slower than that since launch was frustrating.

 

 

Some have noted that the slow down in speed only seems to show up when they were downloading an update while speeds of downloading a complete game were right where they would expect them to be.

 

I don't have any game updates to redownload and test that theory, but again, my game demo downloads have been at full speed over the last couple of days.

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How are the download speed differences, I know the PS4 is an insanely huge upgrade compared to the PS3 download speeds. I have a 100mbit line and it used to take hours to download a small update on the PS3. But now with the PS4 it finished downloading Warframe (4+GB) while I played a bit of Killzone (l was playing for less than 15mins, just trying it out).

 

I'm really impressed with the PS4 servers now, download speed is fantastic. It seems from the other posters here with X1's that the Xbox One download speeds isn't the greatest is that during certain times of the day or majority of the time?

It was really slow when I first got it.. but it seems to download pretty fast now. About the same as the PS4. 

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I really do think it was just a matter of high demand that was slowing things down for a bit. It doesn't help that the files being downloaded are so big either.  The 360 had great speeds but most of the time what you were getting was small anyways.

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I'm on a 50 Meg connection. The games shouldn't take this long to download. I use to download PC games all the time. It seems as it's using only 1/10 my available bandwidth on the Xbox One.

You're being throttled by your ISP. Complain to them.

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Download speed seem fine for me now..

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I'm sure I read somewhere that if you disconnect it from the net while you install your game, it installs quicker. Something to do with it downloading and instling an update for the game at the same time as installing it from the disc.

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It's probably just high usage, live isn't just the 2million+ new Xbox One users but all the old 360 users as well.  We should also take into account any WP and Windows Xbox live games in use to.  At least it hasn't crashed fully or anything.

Live for the 360 lives in a different environment than Live for the One (which resides on Azure)...

Live for the 360 still resides on the Redmond campus, in almost the same spot since the OG Xbox days.

The 180update knocked Microsoft off course, rather they admit it or not. And it seems that they are behind schedule with how the One and Live should be functioning.

I installed NBA2K14 from disc and it did take a while (about 45min - 1hr). Demos (FIFA, NBA Live, Dead Rising 3, were fast. All within 1/2hr or so. And i only got a 25-30 down/up connection.

All my Arcade titles Peggle2, Max:CotB, Killer Instinct:UE, were very fast as well.

Notice that updates take forever. NBA 2K14 had a update the other day, and it seemed like an eternity to install

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Notice that updates take forever. NBA 2K14 had a update the other day, and it seemed like an eternity to install

I had an update for AC4 when installing it yesterday and it went surprisingly fast, maxing out my connection again.

Maybe things are starting to smooth out.

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I had an update for AC4 when installing it yesterday and it went surprisingly fast, maxing out my connection again.

Maybe things are starting to smooth out.

How's AC4 post update?  You notice anything or was it just minor bug fixes and stuff?   How big was the update if you know?

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How's AC4 post update?  You notice anything or was it just minor bug fixes and stuff?   How big was the update if you know?

I should have written it down, but I think the update was 900mb+ in size.

As far as noticing anything, well my wife got the game as a Christmas present, so we had only started playing it yesterday. When I went to install it, it asked to install the update along with it.

The game itself seems to be running well and looks good, so if there is anything in particular you would like me to check in game, I'd be happy to. Was there an issue with glitches or something before the patch?

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The consoles install the games for 2 reasons: one to reduce lens wear/fade, two is for speed. It is required partly for security as well, as each pressed disc has a different license file on it (EG: consoles AND discs could be banned this generation..)

 

You shouldn't have hours of waiting from disc. At 2X BD-ROM speed, thats 45 minutes for a single layer game and 90 minutes for a double layer disc to completely copy. At 6X which I thought the consoles had in them, its 15 and 30 minutes respectivly to copy full BD discs. Also consider when the software is more refined there will be 2 files and a license file, the first file will contain 'essential' loading info (around 10-15 min worth of play time) it can quickly copy while the rest of the game silently copies itself in the background while you are playing... I heard knack was a 15 second to in-game boot.. in my experience it was more like 5 minutes.

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Took my Xbox around to my friends house last night, put Ryse into the Xbox, "3GB update". Damn, not playing that. Aah haven't played Dead Rising 3 in a week or 2, "5GB Update". Damn.

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Took my Xbox around to my friends house last night, put Ryse into the Xbox, "3GB update". Damn, not playing that. Aah haven't played Dead Rising 3 in a week or 2, "5GB Update". Damn.

Couldn't you technically not download the updates by just not connecting to the internet? It should let you play the games as they are at least.

also, do you not run your X1 in standby? If you do, its strange that those updates did not already get downloaded. I have Ryse and I was never prompted to do an update, I had assumed it had pulled it down one night.

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I should have written it down, but I think the update was 900mb+ in size.

As far as noticing anything, well my wife got the game as a Christmas present, so we had only started playing it yesterday. When I went to install it, it asked to install the update along with it.

The game itself seems to be running well and looks good, so if there is anything in particular you would like me to check in game, I'd be happy to. Was there an issue with glitches or something before the patch?

I think the update was to make it 1080p. Or was that just the PS4 version?

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Couldn't you technically not download the updates by just not connecting to the internet? It should let you play the games as they are at least.

also, do you not run your X1 in standby? If you do, its strange that those updates did not already get downloaded. I have Ryse and I was never prompted to do an update, I had assumed it had pulled it down one night.

 

I don't have my Xbox in standby mode because my Powerbrick hums really loudly, given that my powerbrick sits about 1-2 feet away from my head when laying in bed it's difficult to sleep with it on.

 

 

I think the update was to make it 1080p. Or was that just the PS4 version?

 

 

That's just for the PS4 version, Sony had to pay them to do it, otherwise they were content to release both versions in 1600x900

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I don't have my Xbox in standby mode because my Powerbrick hums really loudly, given that my powerbrick sits about 1-2 feet away from my head when laying in bed it's difficult to sleep with it on.

 

 
 

 

That's just for the PS4 version, Sony had to pay them to do it, otherwise they were content to release both versions in 1600x900

 

Bit misleading to post unconfirmed remarks like that, both consoles got AA update, PS4 got 1080p as well. If you do have factual confirmation that I've missed to say Sony paid for an update Ubisoft otherwise wouldn't have done, go ahead and post it. I would like to read it as I find the premise of such a deal rather pointless.

 

Here's what Ubisoft said

 

http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-in-native-1080p-on-playstation-4/

 

But why ship at 900p in the first place? To meet an essential goal: deliver a visually brilliant game at a steady 30 frames per second (the industry gold standard for open-world games). Finishing the game at 900p gave the development team the extra room in terms of the GPU and CPU usage to ensure the framerate never dips below 30 frames per second. The team then used the time between the ship date and the release to focus on a title update that could deliver native 1080p resolution on the PS4.

 

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Bit misleading to post unconfirmed remarks like that, both consoles got AA update, PS4 got 1080p as well. If you do have factual confirmation that I've missed to say Sony paid for an update Ubisoft otherwise wouldn't have done, go ahead and post it. I would like to read it as I find the premise of such a deal rather pointless.

 

Here's what Ubisoft said

 

http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-in-native-1080p-on-playstation-4/

 

I miss read an article that talked about Sony paying off Ubisoft for exclusive AC4 DLC and the PS4 1080 update in the same paragraph. 

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Bit misleading to post unconfirmed remarks like that, both consoles got AA update, PS4 got 1080p as well. If you do have factual confirmation that I've missed to say Sony paid for an update Ubisoft otherwise wouldn't have done, go ahead and post it. I would like to read it as I find the premise of such a deal rather pointless.

 

Here's what Ubisoft said

 

http://blog.ubi.com/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-in-native-1080p-on-playstation-4/

Do you know why the engineers mentioned in that quote of yours continued working on the game, specifically the PS4 version? Out of the goodness of their hearts and the hearts of the good fairy god others at ubisoft (bwahahahahaha) or because they where paid for it? It's an easy equation, especially when you do a 2+2=4 with the rather major deal Ubi did with SCE at the same time.

But I'm sure it's all coincidence ;)

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