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Posted 16 December 2013 - 23:21

Jesus is the colour of whoever happens to worship him. He's White in the West; Christianity is growing in China and if you look at the mosaic art in Church windows in China, Jesus and his disciples are all Chinese.

 

And, Abraham Lincoln was black. At least, to those of us who admire him...

 

The fact that people ignore reality in religion is of no surprise. The reality is that Jesus was not white though, no matter how wrong they have it in the West or in Asia.




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Posted 16 December 2013 - 23:22

See why I've ranted about racism on here and some apparently say it's our fault?



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 23:25

Santa is Turkish.

 

But, feel free to continue.

 

Technically he was Greek. Although born in asia minor, his parents were greek and he was brought up in the greek culture of that region.

 

As far as the ethnicity of constume wearer's is concerned, I can't see what the fuss is. What does it matter the colour of someone's skin, we're all human after all. I'm firmly on the kid's side in this case.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 23:27

A glib teacher who should've left the kid playing Santa alone (most depictions of Santa are white, but what's the harm?!);
Inverted-racist parents who made a big fuss of it (the teacher wasn't being racist. He was just conforming to the majority of Santa depictions...);
A society who is just too racist/sexist/whateverist trigger happy.

The mind boggles...

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 23:39

I wasn't aware of Santa being real... Even if he were... You don't need the race of the actor to match that of the character...

 

Agree with you on Santa. But there are two characters who are white and one who is black for sure: Tell Wil Smith that James West (played by Robert Conrad in the Wild Wild West) and Captain James T. Kirk, are white. Though James T. like green ... women. And Shaft, Shaft is black.

 

Other than that, I'm color neutral, just know how to act.

 

One more thing, Sulu is Asian. You can't have a black or a white actor play Sulu.

 

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 23:40

So, can a white guy play Malcolm X?



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 23:47

does it really matter? Who teaches their children about Santa anymore... 



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 23:51

For cryin' out loud! Let the kid have his fun! St. Nickolaus, on whom Santa is based, may have been white, but that doesn't mean a black kid can't dress up as Santa! Christmas is supposed to be a time of goodwill to all!

 

But still, the teacher shouldn't be fired simply for being stupid and insensitive. I'd call that an eye for an eyelash.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 23:53

And, Abraham Lincoln was black. At least, to those of us who admire him...

 

The fact that people ignore reality in religion is of no surprise. The reality is that Jesus was not white though, no matter how wrong they have it in the West or in Asia.

 

Jesus was Hebrew, so yes, he was dark-skinned.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 00:03

So, can a white guy play Malcolm X?

 

As long as they don't put black paint on their face.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 00:13

I am pretty sure Santa is a Chicken, or else how does his sleigh get off the ground with only reindeer



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 00:16

So, can a white guy play Malcolm X?

 

Not applicable. Malcolm X was a real person and he was black. Talking about fictional characters ...



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 00:23

And, Abraham Lincoln was black. At least, to those of us who admire him...

 

The fact that people ignore reality in religion is of no surprise. The reality is that Jesus was not white though, no matter how wrong they have it in the West or in Asia.

 

I don't do the honorary black dude thing (hear me Richie Incognito). Lincoln was white. What he did has nothing to do with the color of his skin. Nor, half the country who did the right thing, sheltered runaway slaves at risk to their own family. All that. And if there's ever anyone whose physical appearance is irrelevant it's Jesus, who, based on where he lived and his occupation while in the flesh, was a somewhat sturdily built arab-ish dude. Enough of that. Back on topic, I think Clark Griswald could be black but if I was the actor I'd be like, hey, keep Beverly DeAngelo ...



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 00:30

Not applicable. Malcolm X was a real person and he was black. Talking about fictional characters ...

 

Fully applicable.  Both are recognised icons and roles defined by a very specific look.



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Posted 17 December 2013 - 00:52

I don't do the honorary black dude thing (hear me Richie Incognito). Lincoln was white. What he did has nothing to do with the color of his skin. Nor, half the country who did the right thing, sheltered runaway slaves at risk to their own family. All that. And if there's ever anyone whose physical appearance is irrelevant it's Jesus, who, based on where he lived and his occupation while in the flesh, was a somewhat sturdily built arab-ish dude. Enough of that. Back on topic, I think Clark Griswald could be black but if I was the actor I'd be like, hey, keep Beverly DeAngelo ...

 

I was being sarcastic about Abraham Lincoln. If Jesus can be an honorary white and/or Asian person, why not make Lincoln an honorary black person? Because both examples are equally ridiculous, is my point.

 

Which one of these persons is unlike the others... Lincoln, Jesus, Caesar, Santa Claus... I'd totally agree that it's irrelevant in relation to this topic :)

 

BTW, I don't think any white guy other than Chevy Chase could pull off Clark Griswold, let alone a black guy. Maybe Steve Martin, maybe. The guy from the Office and Hangover, is a very remote possibility. Clark Griswold is who Richard Pryor or Chris Rock are imitating when they do their white guy impressions, and while it's funny to watch for brief bits on stage, Chevy Chase was so great because he was so believable as that person.