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pennsylvania homicide attempted robbery denied bail .22-caliber rifle

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#46 Deleted Bye

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 03:44

So slavery then? 

if this is your definition of slavery yes... most would suggest it's not. Prison crews who clean up the roadside, do you consider that slavery? What about prison kitchen crews?




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Posted 29 December 2013 - 03:49

if this is your definition of slavery yes... most would suggest it's not. Prison crews who clean up the roadside, do you consider that slavery? What about prison kitchen crews?

 

I believe that's optional for inmates and if they opt-out they receive less food.  :)

 

But I'd say:

"mandatory forced labor @ min. wage with a payback scheduled 10X the value of the product/goods stolen" 

 

is pretty spot on for being considered slavery but then again that is legal in the US. 



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 03:55

Can't do the time (and tolerate "slavery" etc.), don't do the crime. It's very simple, really.

And ok - first timers, small time stuff, may have various alibi, confessions and circumstances that made them do it, but repeat offenders - straight to the quarry, to brown bread and water, for all I care.



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 03:59

I believe that's optional for inmates and if they opt-out they receive less food.  :)

 

But I'd say:

"mandatory forced labor @ min. wage with a payback scheduled 10X the value of the product/goods stolen" 

 

is pretty spot on for being considered slavery but then again that is legal in the US. 

better then a slap on the wrist, or like in the story, shot in the back...

 

remember, the idea would be to DETER theft and break-ins, the way things are right now, there isn't much deterrent.



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 04:39

In court documents, Shaffer told police he found the rifle and brought it into his home. When he realized it was a .22-caliber rifle, he loaded his own rounds into the gun, grabbed a flashlight and set out to find Hughes.

So after he was already gone he chased him and killed him?  I hope he ends up in jail.  You can't even claim self-defense once the guy has already left; it's just pure vigilantism.



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 05:54

Hope he is brought up on formal charges and at least sees several years. His life was no longer in danger. He hunted the guy down.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 06:09

Well, to be more precise maybe instead of saying "after he was already gone", I would say "after he committed attempted robbery and attempted murder".  Then, yes the man chased him down and killed him, which wasn't the best decision but that kid has a criminal past and tried to murder someone.  Considering the information I have from the story, I don't have sympathy for either side. 

 

So after he was already gone he chased him and killed him?  I hope he ends up in jail.  You can't even claim self-defense once the guy has already left; it's just pure vigilantism.