Just found out something at my workplace: No paper shredder


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Hello,

This is a stupid question but why not a paper shredder that is locked, one-way, and at the end of each day an ISO9001 certified contractor reshreds it?

 

Because the NSA has hidden scanners inside some paper shredders and it beams the contents of the paper to them.

 

No really, probably because a large volume shredder costs and weighs a lot. A bin is a lot easier to manage and it costs less to have a contractor shred it.

 

At Enron, we shredded a lot of documents. A lot of them.

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Hello,

This is a stupid question but why not a paper shredder that is locked, one-way, and at the end of each day an ISO9001 certified contractor reshreds it?

There's no point shredding it and then re-shredding it.

Shredding is a waste of employees's time. I often have hundreds of pages to shred - I can slide them into a locked box, where we pay somebody to come and collect it at the end of the day, instead of sitting there for minutes feeding sheets into a shredder.

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Why an external contractor?

 

The hoops you have to jump through to remains ISO accreddited if you do your own shredding are ridiculous.  It is not our primary business focus or a revenue stream so it is actually cheaper to use an external company.

 

To the person who said "Why not just rip it up", you have no idea about the business world it seems, and how accreditation and certification around data security work.

 

But what about your scanners with internal hard drives that store every document scanned,do you have them encrypted?

 

We have a system that scans to hard drive fully encrypted every step of the way.  These are purged once the file has reached our secure storage area.  So, yes!

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I believe he was referring to a copier machine with scanning capability, which most have.  This became a concern about 2-3 years ago as these copiers contain hdd.  If the copier is sold, thousands of documents could be pulled off the hdd.  This has since been resolved with software updates. And, most copier companies now offer to extract the hdd for the customer to keep before being sold for added security.

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Why an external contractor?

 

The hoops you have to jump through to remains ISO accreddited if you do your own shredding are ridiculous.  It is not our primary business focus or a revenue stream so it is actually cheaper to use an external company.

 

To the person who said "Why not just rip it up", you have no idea about the business world it seems, and how accreditation and certification around data security work.

 

We have a system that scans to hard drive fully encrypted every step of the way.  These are purged once the file has reached our secure storage area.  So, yes!

 

I believe he was referring to the fact that the OP had a sheet of paper with his personal banking information and that hardly requires a shredder, so simply tearing/cutting it up (thoroughly) would suffice.

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Just like many others have said at work we have bins for paper to be shredded, one in each printer room

 

Since it's a rather large Healthcare company it generally discouraged that anything be printed in the first place unless it's a necessity, and if something confidential is printed has to be shredded ASAP 

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I've never heard of a (flat bed certainly not) scanner with a build in HDD, only those which post the file to a central storage repository such as a secure file area on a LAN-based server.

Usually the ones build into Enterprise level printers have built-in storage, the ones in our office I can recall the last 50 documents scanned and print them or move them to a network share (50 document limit is in the software running on the device, I'm sure it stores more).

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No.  We are a major UK law firm, and so we take the disposal of sensitive data VERY seriously.  As such, we have "Shredder bins" which are locked, one-way bins, that at the end of each day an ISO9001 certified contractor shreds for us.

 

Wowza haha, Royal Air Force here, Restricted documents go into a regular consumer shredder, anything higher than restricted gets burnt.

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We shred documents, then they get pulverized at some local paper recycling plant.

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At a law firm I worked at, yes. There's a shredder, but it's only used to destroy case files over 10 years old. Otherwise everything is kept in the case file.

 

At the place i'm at now, no. We're entirely paperless, and the little paper we do use gets put in a "burn box" and once a year (or two years) we have a bon-fire.

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Rohdekill, on 18 Jan 2014 - 05:17, said:

I believe he was referring to a copier machine with scanning capability, which most have.  This became a concern about 2-3 years ago as these copiers contain hdd.  If the copier is sold, thousands of documents could be pulled off the hdd.  This has since been resolved with software updates. And, most copier companies now offer to extract the hdd for the customer to keep before being sold for added security.

Not all model copies are encrypted. I have found the encryption part is usually an extra paid for license to enable it.

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Well, as one of the owners, I have a key to the Shred-It boxes.  So, I wouldn't throw anything personal in them anyways.  As I could open them nightly and look.

 

Just a thought.  Once it leaves the building to the truck, you are good to go.

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Not all model copies are encrypted. I have found the encryption part is usually an extra paid for license to enable it.

 

 

 

My shredder at work:

 

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If that were real money it would be a criminal and a moral offence to destroy it :D

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