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#1 +macoman

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 23:42

Got it free from my school, does anyone know where I can start learning to make apps for Windows Phone 8?




#2 BajiRav

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 23:48

http://developer.win...m/en-us/develop

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 23:53

Are there anything more basic for people that never learned programming? In that link even the most basic tutorial, needs to know already c#.



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:04

Are there anything more basic for people that never learned programming? In that link even the most basic tutorial, needs to know already c#.

You should explore MSDN.com, it will usually link you to beginners lessons.

http://channel9.msdn...olute-Beginners

http://www.robmiles.com/c-yellow-book/

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:08

Pretty sure there's tutorials and basic stuff on the dreamspark site you got it off too...



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:13

You want to program, without knowing how to program... :rolleyes:

 

The instructions for how to create your first app in the link above really are pretty damn simple. Try to just follow them. Then once you've got that working, go and learn basic programming constructs. That will then help to enable you to understand how to build upon your first app.

 

Are you doing this just for fun, or are you doing this to create an app for some sort of business. In either case, you're going to have to pursue knowledge of programming sooner or later in order to have any success. In the latter case, I'd advise you stop what you're doing and instead pay someone who does know how to program to do it for you. As a potential customer, I don't want to install and run apps created by beginners/amateurs who don't have a clue how to program, let alone how to program securely. Sorry if I'm being harsh.



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:14

Pretty sure there's tutorials and basic stuff on the dreamspark site you got it off too...

Actually, most of the tutorials are on the core Visual Studio site (http://www.visualstudio.com).

 

I got access to VS 2013 Professional via Website Spark Admin, not DreamSpark (different progam).



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:19

You want to program, without knowing how to program... :rolleyes:

 

The instructions for how to create your first app in the link above really are pretty damn simple. Try to just follow them. Then once you've got that working, go and learn basic programming constructs. That will then help to enable you to understand how to build upon your first app.

 

Are you doing this just for fun, or are you doing this to create an app for some sort of business. In either case, you're going to have to pursue knowledge of programming sooner or later in order to have any success. In the latter case, I'd advise you stop what you're doing and instead pay someone who does know how to program to do it for you. As a potential customer, I don't want to install and run apps created by beginners/amateurs who don't have a clue how to program, let alone how to program securely. Sorry if I'm being harsh.

theblazingangel - most of the tutorials are for folks with experience with earlier versions of VS, and that is because of changes within the IDE.  Other tutorials (different section altogether) are for those looking to get into new sorts of programming (such as ModernUI or WP/RT app development), while still others are for those coming from other IDEs (such as Eclipse or Xcode).



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:22

theblazingangel - most of the tutorials are for folks with experience with earlier versions of VS, and that is because of changes within the IDE.  Other tutorials (different section altogether) are for those looking to get into new sorts of programming (such as ModernUI or WP/RT app development), while still others are for those coming from other IDEs (such as Eclipse or Xcode).

 

I don't see your point...

 

edit: While some languages/IDEs provide wysiwyg capabilities more than others, you really can't succeed imo as an app developer except in the most trivial of apps without at least a little knowledge of programming concepts.



#10 PGHammer

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:29

I don't see your point...

 

edit: While some languages/IDEs provide wysiwyg capabilities more than others, you really can't succeed imo as an app developer except in the most trivial of apps without at least a little knowledge of programming concepts.

Stipulated - however, VS 2013's tutorials aren't about that; it's assumed that you have some programming grounding before even viewing the tutorials.

 

(Besides, if you are looking to LEARN how to write code from a "basics" standpoint, there are several books (including from Microsoft Press) on the subject - even then, you'd be better off with Visual Studio Express - not Professional.  Visual Studio Express comes in two versions, and is free period.)



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:33

Stipulated - however, VS 2013's tutorials aren't about that; it's assumed that you have some programming grounding before even viewing the tutorials.

 

(Besides, if you are looking to LEARN how to write code from a "basics" standpoint, there are several books (including from Microsoft Press) on the subject - even then, you'd be better off with Visual Studio Express - not Professional.  Visual Studio Express comes in two versions, and is free period.)

 

Ah, yes, I'd agree with you that the tutorials are absolutely not the best way to get started in programming. However, the OP was not after suggestions on how to get started with learning to program, the OP wanted a simple tutorial to making an app, and this the OP can accomplish by just following (copying and pasting the code, so long as the code is void of bugs) the instructions in the tutorial.



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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:45

I got it from dreamspark, my school have a subscription and we have access to a lot of software in there :woot:... My career is in design... so I do not have a clue about programming but I want to learn to do apps in Windows Phone 8 for fun and perhaps to make money (when I get some skills) :rofl:



#13 Andre S.

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 00:56

Got it free from my school, does anyone know where I can start learning to make apps for Windows Phone 8?

Pretty much what BajiRav said. Start by learning C#, then you can learn the specifics of making apps for a particular platform like WP8.