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#1 +FaiKee

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 07:54

To-day, a thread appeared in PCBeta:

 

http://bbs.pcbeta.co...473321-1-1.html

 

The Bing translation is bad, so here's what it says:

 

Title : To-day a internal office circular advices all units using win8/8.1 should roll back to win7 after Chinese New Year.

 

Text: It says win8 is unsafe, there is a backdoor.

Leader says a important speech material of President Xi Jinping (now this really touches every nerve, LOL) was leaked to oeverseas pre-maturely, and was found to be win8's fault.

The order is direct from Natioanl Security Bureau

 

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A while later another thread from another member:

 

http://bbs.pcbeta.co...473356-1-1.html

 

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And some replies confirming they also received this circular:

 

(translation: Yes, and this was issued by Provincial Govt)

 

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......so it seems this circular is for real, and I guess MS is facing a deep sh**.  :huh:




#2 bdsams

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 14:24

Had a friend who can read Mandarin look into this, no other reports of this besides this thread...take it with salt. 



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 20:14

Lucky them.

 

I think a lot of people wish they were forbidden to use Windows 8 / 8.1 :D



#4 arachnoid

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 21:20

China has its own specialy coded version of Microsoft Windows and a goverment designed " security" application so I understand so Id say this story is unlikely.The government is also in the process of making a linux based operating system that will more than likely be a mandatory requirement for all citizens.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 00:45

China has its own specialy coded version of Microsoft Windows and a goverment designed " security" application so I understand so Id say this story is unlikely.The government is also in the process of making a linux based operating system that will more than likely be a mandatory requirement for all citizens.

LOL, this is more fun than those rumors on "win8.2"; "Win9 release date"; "Threshold" rumors I read lately. :laugh:



#6 xendrome

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 00:47

China has its own specialy coded version of Microsoft Windows

 

 

They do? Source? and also how did they steal the source code from Microsoft?



#7 Aheer.R.S.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 00:51

They do? Source? and also how did they steal the source code from Microsoft?

Well, seeing as most build leaks come from China and Russia.............. :p



#8 Ian W

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:16

Text: It says win8 is unsafe, there is a backdoor.

Leader says a important speech material of President Xi Jinping (now this really touches every nerve, LOL) was leaked to oeverseas pre-maturely, and was found to be win8's fault.

The order is direct from Natioanl Security Bureau

How was it determined that the leak was because of Windows 8?

I'm curious as to why Microsoft would need to have a backdoor in the first place. One would (most likely) be unnecessary, as Microsoft reportedly shares software vulnerabilities with agencies, allows agencies access to their servers, and allows error message information to be analyzed.

. . . That being said, I do trust Microsoft more than the other tech companies mentioned. From Microsoft's NGSCB FAQ:
 

"Microsoft would refuse to voluntarily place a back door in any of its products and would fiercely resist any government attempt to require back doors in products. From a security perspective, such back doors are an unacceptable security risk because they would permit unscrupulous individuals to compromise the confidentiality, integrity and availability of our customers' data and systems. From a market perspective, such products would not be marketable, either domestically or internationally. Equally important, deliberately inserting such vulnerabilities would undermine Microsoft's reputation in the marketplace as a trusted vendor of products. For these reasons and others, we would, as we did during the encryption debate, oppose any such government efforts."


#9 MorganX

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:17

You're only allowed to use a counterfeit version.



#10 OP +FaiKee

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:24

How was it determined that the leak was because of Windows 8?

I'm curious as to why Microsoft would need to have a backdoor in the first place. One would be largely unnecessary, as they reportedly share software vulnerabilities with agencies, allow agencies access to their servers, and allow error message information to be analyzed.

That being said, I do trust Microsoft more than the other tech companies mentioned. From Microsoft's NGSCB FAQ:
 

The current guess is that because win8/8.1 has SkyDrive(OneDrive) by default, and some guy unknowingly upload sensitive materials to the cloud and got leaked/hacked. To-day is Chinese New Year, maybe there would be more about it after the holidays.

 

That's how Chinese Government does things: when they find something fishy, just shoot down everything first, and (maybe, or maybe not) ask questions later. :)

 

P.S. Maybe it ddin't got actually leaked, but if Beijing finds that some sensitive thing is not in thier own physical servers in thier own physical protections, but in a MS server out of their control, they will be very unhappy about it.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:29

if theres 'backdoor' for leakage that would be the Office 365 cloud storage, as NSA-Microsoft agreement/contract are remain valid till this day.
Its trivial matter to check which documents were uploaded from Chinese's IP addresses.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:02

They do? Source? and also how did they steal the source code from Microsoft?

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 08:33

They do? Source? and also how did they steal the source code from Microsoft?

 

Why would they need the source code, Microsoft works with the government to ensure that there software can be released in the country, same with a lot of manufacturers.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:35

A review of another authors book who quotes the same action between MS and the Chinese

 

 

 

The author is clearly anti-Microsoft, pro open-source, and less knowledgeable about software creation than he should be. He tells stories of Bill Gates signing an agreement with the Chinese that would allow them to see and modify Windows operating system code (why would he, and why would China care?)

http://www.computer....-robert-l-glass



#15 PGHammer

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:59

How was it determined that the leak was because of Windows 8?

I'm curious as to why Microsoft would need to have a backdoor in the first place. One would (most likely) be unnecessary, as Microsoft reportedly shares software vulnerabilities with agencies, allows agencies access to their servers, and allows error message information to be analyzed.

. . . That being said, I do trust Microsoft more than the other tech companies mentioned. From Microsoft's NGSCB FAQ:
 

Microsoft submits their OSes to NSA for security testing as a requirement for many government contracts; this is neither new, or news. (Have we forgotten that NSA also runs the National Computer Security Center - the government's IT security arm?)

Further, the PRC has never been a fan of any OSes from *outside* (as in outside the PRC) - their hatred is far from Windows-specific. (In fact, if anything, non-Windows OSes - including Android and OS X - come in for even greater scorn.)