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#31 #Michael

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 19:57

 

And there are problems (specifically, issues with drive corruption) that occur with surprising frequency on real Macs that Hack users can fix far easier than real Mac users.  (I mentioned elsewhere that fixing drive corruption - which even OS X is not immune to - requires dropping all the way to the command line.  There is no GUI-based fix for this issue - which all versions of OS X are vulnerable to.  Worse, it's not the only problem that OS X has that requires CLI experience to fix.  If you have any experience at all with a command-line (such as Linux or Windows, or especially BSD), there's surprisingly little different in the OS X CLI/terminal environment compared to BSD; however, despite that, it's something that Apple discourages.)

 

I'd love to know more about this.  I have never had this issue nor have I heard about this.  Is there a thread on the apple forums about this?




#32 ndoggfromhell

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 20:13

As a hackintosh user for .. dear god, 3 years now!!!  I would recommend you stick to a golden stable build.  Research a site with Tony in the name and build off a system they have established is compatible.  I love my hackintosh, built it as a side project then when a need came for it at my work place I brought it in and it's been my daily system over a year now.  Before it I had 2 generations of hackitoshes for home use.  

 

If you do decided to go with Apple, why not the mac pro... even the first generation intel models are decently fast and easy to upgrade.  



#33 wakjak

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 20:24

I looked at the cost of 16gb of Ram on the Apple site... Crazy expensive.  Can I not just use OEM?

 

I bought 16GB of RAM for $89 online. Still running that ram today, bought the newest Mac Mini with the i7 2.6GHZ and I love it.



#34 PGHammer

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:54

I'd love to know more about this.  I have never had this issue nor have I heard about this.  Is there a thread on the apple forums about this?

Yes, there is.  There are threads on most Mac fora about drive corruption on OS X.

 Let's be honest - every OS has drive corruption issues - without exception.  There are methods in each OS to lessen the impact of corruption - however, no operating system has any method of blocking corruption.

Even OS X third-party utilities can only go so far at reducing the impact (to be fair, the same goes for first-thru-third-party utilities for any OS) -- however, only the BSDs and their derivatives - including OS X - utterly lack non-CLI utilities for dealing with it when it happens.



#35 threetonesun

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 03:20

Yes, there is.  There are threads on most Mac fora about drive corruption on OS X.

 Let's be honest - every OS has drive corruption issues - without exception.  There are methods in each OS to lessen the impact of corruption - however, no operating system has any method of blocking corruption.

Even OS X third-party utilities can only go so far at reducing the impact (to be fair, the same goes for first-thru-third-party utilities for any OS) -- however, only the BSDs and their derivatives - including OS X - utterly lack non-CLI utilities for dealing with it when it happens.

 

It happens, sure, but I've never seen one a verify and repair permissions couldn't fix. 

 

Also, there's no way a Hackintosh would have less problems in this department.



#36 vhane

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 04:08

Yes, there is.  There are threads on most Mac fora about drive corruption on OS X.

 Let's be honest - every OS has drive corruption issues - without exception.  There are methods in each OS to lessen the impact of corruption - however, no operating system has any method of blocking corruption.

Even OS X third-party utilities can only go so far at reducing the impact (to be fair, the same goes for first-thru-third-party utilities for any OS) -- however, only the BSDs and their derivatives - including OS X - utterly lack non-CLI utilities for dealing with it when it happens.

 

If you're referring to bit rot, then there's no reason why a Hackintosh would be any more immune to this than a first party Mac.



#37 +snaphat (Myles Landwehr)

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 04:24

Yes, there is.  There are threads on most Mac fora about drive corruption on OS X.

 Let's be honest - every OS has drive corruption issues - without exception.  There are methods in each OS to lessen the impact of corruption - however, no operating system has any method of blocking corruption.

Even OS X third-party utilities can only go so far at reducing the impact (to be fair, the same goes for first-thru-third-party utilities for any OS) -- however, only the BSDs and their derivatives - including OS X - utterly lack non-CLI utilities for dealing with it when it happens.

In the *BSDs defense, they lack a non-CLI per default.



#38 OP +Nik L

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:23

If I swap out the HDD to an SSD - is there anything special I need to do?



#39 guitmz

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:32

hack all the way man :)



#40 +Chicane-UK

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:36

I'll just chuck my 2 cents in here..

 

I ran a hackintosh for about 6 months, before actually going and buying a real Mac (Macbook Air). I decided to go this route when Windows 8 launched and I was just so disillusioned and irritated by it, I decided to vote with my feet. I've never got on with Linux day to day, but figured OSX would be the next best thing. 

 

The Hackintosh ran great - I deliberately chose a well supported motherboard, and it was mostly good. I got weird problems with occasional lockups and every time I installed an update I had to cross my fingers it'd keep working. I did occasionally have to re-run the MultiBeast package to replace drivers that were upgraded when patches were installed.

 

After that I decided that I not only wanted to switch to a laptop anyway (to save space, and to give me some options when I was on the road) but also decided I wanted to buy an Apple machine. I figured that my ethos has always been if you like something, pay for it. I like OSX and I like Apple hardware generally, and even though it's not like Apple needs my money, I thought it only fair.

 

I've not regretted it a bit. I bought an 11" Air with the Core i7, 512GB SSD and 8GB RAM. It was the most expensive computer I've ever bought but I've been thrilled with how good it is. And it's nice to know, problems aside, that OSX will "just work" on it when I install it. 



#41 OP +Nik L

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:38

Chicane-UK: Thanks man, I recall you offering help and advice when I first built my old hackintosh :)



#42 ndoggfromhell

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 13:05

It happens, sure, but I've never seen one a verify and repair permissions couldn't fix. 

 

Also, there's no way a Hackintosh would have less problems in this department.

 

I've had it happen twice this year.  1 macbook pro being used to watch movies that suddenly stopped.  The other was a imac that locked up during photo editiing.  

 

both had to be wiped and reloaded, drive couldn't be repaired in my hackintosh or another macintosh.



#43 +Fractalizer

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 13:08

If you are willing to spend a lot of time setting it up and trying to fix things if they go wrong and don't mind downtime or such things go Hackintosh. If you want it to just work and be able to update it with support go with the Mac Mini.



#44 n_K

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 13:09

I've had it happen twice this year.  1 macbook pro being used to watch movies that suddenly stopped.  The other was a imac that locked up during photo editiing.  

 

both had to be wiped and reloaded, drive couldn't be repaired in my hackintosh or another macintosh.

I'd say the chances are it's something you're doing over it being an OSX issue. Two completely different drives in one year is either just random plain coincidence or something wrong you're doing.

My H/D in this macbook died whilst I was using it (click of death) and was pretty outraged that a 4.5 year old drive had died already, but you can only blame the hardware company for that (and as apple don't make hard drives the blame doesn't lie with them)



#45 +Fractalizer

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 13:11

Oh and also if you want to upgrade the RAM or SSD in the Mac Mini check this Video out, he shows you how to do a dual drive Upgrade but you can clearly see the RAM is visible and accessible.

 

 

If I was buying a Mac Mini this is definitely what I would do, Max out the RAM and Install a 256GB SSD and a 1TB Storage Drive. But this is what I would say you do, Just buy the Mac Mini with the CPU you want and then do this. Heck it's what I would do simply because when you buy a Mac you get the support and I Don't like not having a working machine.