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#1 +mkol

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 21:06

Hello Guys,

 

It's been six years since my last build and it's time to build a new system. I am only in search of motherboard, Ram and CPU as the rest of the parts I have upgraded in to my old PC and will be using those such as PSU and Graphic card.

 

I am confuse between which platform to go between CPUs,

 

The two I have in mind is I7(2011) 4820K @3.70ghz

and Haswell chip i7 477k (1150) @3.50ghz

 

The motherboard I have in mind in the Asus Extreme edition which is in the range of £300 plus for both platforms.

 

However I am confuse which platform of Intel is better. I am not a big fan of the intergrated gpu with the haswell chip and I welcome your thoughts on the CPUs and Ram as I am not sure which Ram to go  and what speed but 16gb is what I am aiming to go for.

 

Yours Thoughts are welcomed.

 

Thanks




#2 xendrome

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 21:15

 I am not a big fan of the intergrated gpu with the haswell chip and I welcome your thoughts 

 

If you don't need to use the integrated GPU on the haswell chip, then ignore it and don't use it.. it doesn't make you use it...



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 21:19

^ Is there a option in the bios to disable it?



#4 Jeston

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 21:23

^ Is there a option in the bios to disable it?

Yes, usually.

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 21:25

Which platform is better any idea?



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 06:23

Hello,

 

I was faced with a similar dilemma in the past couple of weeks as my ~4 year old desktop PC grew increasingly unstable.  I wrote about it in this message thread: New Workstation Build for 2014

 

In the end, I went with a i7-4820K and ASUS P9X79 PRO myself.    A large part of the decision was based on my re-using the RAM I had in my previous i7-950/ASUS P6T Deluxe build, along with a desire to go above 32GB of RAM at some point during the PC's lifecycle.

 

If you're not planning on re-using any existing RAM, though, the i7-4770K might be a better choice, especially if you choose a Z87-chipset based motherboard.

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 06:43

Integrated GPU shuts down as soon as you connect a PCI E graphics card. There are options in BIOS to enable or disable it and it will install Intel gdrivers upon restart.

I personally have no issues with the igpu, when my 570GTX stopped working my pc automatically switched to Ivy's integrated graphics and could keep up with my workflow.

Moreover, I would pick the newer Haswell cpu than the 2011 socket one - new features energy-wise , new instrunctions and speed make it the right choice for you my friend.

 

Kingston memory ram works perfectly with Intel cpu , a few compatible models out there sporting Intel's XMP features.

If you go for 16 GB ram (wich is enough) , you should roll for a more simple mobo. If you don't overclock , don't spend your money on expensive motherboards. Go for Intel based mobos for high efficiency and reliability over years. (just my two cents)

 

Don't go for 2011 IMO.



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 11:10

It is possible to disable Intel's iGPU/integrated GPU via BIOS. I have the 4770K and have done just that since I use a discrete GPU.

 

Secondly, there is really no advantage of going with Ivy Bridge (LGA 2011) over Haswell (LGA 1150). It's a dead socket and the components for that chipset are expensive in general. Haswell consumes less power, and is generally 10% faster. Specifically the 4770K is faster than the 4820K. Here is a excellent benchmark. Another one here.

 

The Asus Maximus VI Extreme is an excellent choice. Possibly the best Z87 board. As for RAM. The Z87 is dual-channel. You can choose to populate all 4 slots with 4 x 4GB ram or just two with 2 x 8GB. The slots are color coded so you should easily be able to see where the rams should go when you're configuration for dual-channel. As for the speed of the ram, well that depends on your price range.



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 13:12

Alright It's seems that Haswell is a better choice compare to the old 2011 socket. And I am sure that I want to get the extreme series motherboard for the cpu but I am not sure about the ram speed. Can you suggest what 16gb ram would be better with that setup. My budget for the ram is about £150.



#10 MindTrickz

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 14:01

Alright It's seems that Haswell is a better choice compare to the old 2011 socket. And I am sure that I want to get the extreme series motherboard for the cpu but I am not sure about the ram speed. Can you suggest what 16gb ram would be better with that setup. My budget for the ram is about £150.

 

The Asus Maximus VI Extreme is a bit pricey. Costs more than the 4770K where I live. Anyway, here is a review testing the best Z87 motherboards under $220. Those are US prices and this do not include VAT. Here is the same test but this time with the price raised to $330.

 

In the first one, the winner is The Asus Z87 Pro and the second one it's ASUS Maximus VI Extreme. The can respectively be had for £162 and £330. If you're going to go with the Z87Pro, then I would personally go for the Asus Z87 MAXIMUS VI HERO instead since It's better and only costs £3 more. 

 

As you most like you know, the Maximus VI is Asus's ROG (Republic of Gamers) board, it's reserved for their flagship hardware. this means it comes with extra bells and whistles

 

As for Ram. G.Skill Trident X F3-1600C7D-16GTX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3  Dual Channel Memory Kit for £134.99.



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 16:32

^^ Thank you all so far...



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Posted 02 February 2014 - 22:28

This is a good guide to see what you're getting for your money for the Z87 as I've just purchased a motherboard/cpu combo:

 

http://promos.asus.c...z87/comparison/

 

My personal choice was the Asus-Plus as it had a good feature set (Intel Lan / better audio) and I didn't need wireless built into the board (just one more thing that could fail) - A great deal for £112.90.

 

http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/B00CXK57FS

 

I didn't go for the 4770K because the difference in performance is very minor for gaming (1-2% if that) for the amount of money you have to shell out over the 4670k (you haven't stated your primary uses - so if it's for Photoshop/Audio processing then there's a good argument for the beefier processor).

 

Asus has a great feature set for overclocking out of the box, you just install the AI suite and it'll tune fans/memory/processor to save power when idle and overclock on the fly when you play a game (some call it lazy but it does the job).

 

For a cooler, I'd certainly suggest something quiet and powerful over the pretty awful stock cooler.  Either the Dark Rock Pro 2 or the Noctua NH-D14 are my favs.  You can get the Corsair H100i if you want to spend the extra money (and have the room in your case for the radiator) although from my experience there is very little difference in sound and heat dissipation over the air coolers (plus there seems to be many reports of failing Corsair pumps in the last few months).

 

Let us know what you choose :)



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Posted 03 February 2014 - 17:28

thanks people.