Windows 8.1 2014 Update Leaked To Web

[Dot Matrix]

It's not hard to imagine a use case for that. For example you have an application that spans two monitors (say, Photoshop) and one that spans only one (say, a web browser). If you can overlay the browser over photoshop, then you still see what you're working on while comparing with something you're browsing on the web.

 

Partially overlaying windows also leads to a very natural workflow, for instance you can switch to an application by clicking on the actual window rather than invoking some abstract (or, in the case of Metro, hidden) mechanism.

I'd hardly call overlaying windows "natural". It's like trying to work with a stack of documents: They work best when laid next to each other, not over top each other.

[gohpep]

I wish they would make it like the Mac has it, there is a full screen button. You could modern mix metro apps, or modern desktop apps, by having them each run in their own desktop environment (looking like windows with no explorer.exe)

[Mandosis]

I wish they would make it like the Mac has it, there is a full screen button. You could modern mix metro apps, or modern desktop apps, by having them each run in their own desktop environment (looking like windows with no explorer.exe)

I wish they had that too. There are a few things I wish they would copy from apple like Finder (explorer basically) with the tabbed interface.

[Andre S. Veteran]

I'd hardly call overlaying windows "natural". It's like trying to work with a stack of documents: They work best when laid next to each other, not over top each other.

But if you're working on several things on a crowded desk then you like to stack and overlay things so that you see everything you need, not according to some rigid arbitrary rules forbidding you from ever overlapping two things or having more than 2 or 3 things visible at a time.

[Active.]

I'd hardly call overlaying windows "natural". It's like trying to work with a stack of documents 

Really?  :/

[Dot Matrix]

Really?  :/

Really. Efficiency is having your work laid out in front of you ready to go, not buried beneath other things. 

[Active.]

Efficiency is having your work laid out in front of you ready to go, 

Honestly, if Metro works for you in that way, then that's great. I'll stick to having my documents "inefficiently" overlap.

[Raa]

The news you saw earlier was in regards to Microsoft booting to the desktop by default. This build doesn't have all the bits in place that drive that feature/change.

That was what I asked when someone gave me a snarky reply. Thank you for clarifying the exact situation. :)

 

So possibly this leak isn't final, and the "by default" feature may be implemented... Hmm.

[Andre S. Veteran]

Really. Efficiency is having your work laid out in front of you ready to go, not buried beneath other things. 

You don't even acknowledge the counter-examples given to you in the very posts you reply to.  :/

[BajiRav]

That doesn't allow a maximized application to hide the taskbar; it's the taskbar that'll actually hide the application, partially, when you bring it up.

[Brian Miller]

No thanks.

[zhangm Supervisor]

Looking over how I organize papers on my desk, I see that many documents overlap. Still, while I'm working, I lay things out so that the content that I'm working with or comparing against one another doesn't overlap. You don't work with anything that's buried three papers deep.

Metro still needs more freedom to optimize layout to content. For many things, snapping doesn't cut it, and obstinately wastes screen space to display absolutely nothing of use other than the app's background color.

[NEVER85]

That was what I asked when someone gave me a snarky reply. Thank you for clarifying the exact situation. :)

 

So possibly this leak isn't final, and the "by default" feature may be implemented... Hmm.

 

Exactly why I'm going to hold off on it, despite the improvements.

[+Zlip792 MVC]

some more changes in IE 11.0.3:

Depth / Stencil Bits changed from [24, ] to [24 , 0]

DOM Explorer also got two changes:

"Changes" highlights changes made to CSS.

:a symbol enable pseudo states panel

Debugger got two new button:

Second last one is for "Debug all code" and last one is for "Toggle Source Map"

Debug all code also appear in Debugger in here as well:

Another button appear in Console:

It is "clear on navigate enabled"

Emulation mode also got small change:

its link which leads to article explaining stuff.

UI Responsiveness and Memory Profiling got new text with shortcut indication:

http://test262.ecmascript.org/ failures on 5.1 test suite:

11.0.2

11.0.3

Good improvement!!!

[George P Global Moderator]

 They added new disk info/options in the PC Settings menu. You now get more info about disk space and what is using what. There is also the ability to empty the recycle bin now but IMO they should add the recycle bin itself to metro some way. Making it a tile/app is one way but maybe it could be better as a entry in the user menu under logout or something.  You could drop it into the settings charm as well, take the power button out since it's now on the start screen itself and put a recycle bin button there.

[DConnell Member]

That was what I asked when someone gave me a snarky reply. Thank you for clarifying the exact situation. :)

 

So possibly this leak isn't final, and the "by default" feature may be implemented... Hmm.

Just as long as it can be turned off if it is the default.

[Raa]

Just as long as it can be turned off if it is the default.

And vice-versa, hopefully.

[DConnell Member]

And vice-versa, hopefully.

 

Agreed. Choice is a good thing.

[FaiKee]

New feature in 2014 Update: "Disk Footprint Tool", it shows in system32, but could only be launched in CMD. :)

 

 

[George P Global Moderator]

It should be interesting to see how it works and what OEMs do with it. The more they can reduce the disk footprint of the OS the better for tablet users.

[PGHammer]

It should be interesting to see how it works and what OEMs do with it. The more they can reduce the disk footprint of the OS the better for tablet users.

Or what technical users can do with DFP - it can also be used to spot space pigs, swapfile growth, etc.  Because of the number of switches, the usage possibilities for DFP are many.

[zhangm Supervisor]

Thread moved to the Beta subforum for discussion of pre-release/unfinalized Windows versions.

[Syanide]

Why are you trying to work in Photoshop, then want windows over top of it? If you have windows over top of Photoshop, then you are not working in Photoshop...

 

Except if you're drag/dropping stuff from one window into another, a common action for both Photoshop itself when having several document windows open, and other programs used in combination with Photoshop.

 

Drag and drop -- another thing to add to the long list of things wrong with Metro apps in general.