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#1 +riahc3

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 15:08

Hello,

Related to a thread nearby, Ive installed Windows 7 32bits on a server that was running Ubuntu (nonserver) and now its just plain horrible.

Mouse studders always.
No Aero (video card limitation).
For a i3 and a brand new HDD, the computer feels VERY slow. The client PC I used to run was a P4 and it felt faster.

Going to Dell's site, they only have drivers for server OSs for this PC:

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Tried Windows Server 2008 R2 (Windows 7's server equal) but nothing.

Is this normal?


#2 Haggis

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 15:12

What hardware is in it?



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 15:13

Why did you install a 32bit OS?



#4 DJGM

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 15:14

What is the full spec of this machine? Have you tried a separate graphics card other than the on-board graphics?



#5 xpxp2002

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 15:30

Keep in mind that "Windows 2008 R2" is an x64 option. Windows 2008 x86 (effectively Vista x86) still uses the WDDM driver model; drivers for it, in most circumstances, should work with Windows 7 x86.



#6 OP +riahc3

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 15:40

Hello,

Is this report enough:

--------[ Summary ]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Computer:
Computer Type Equipo basado en ACPI x86
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer 11.0.9600.16428
DirectX DirectX 11.0
Computer Name
User Name
Logon Domain
Date / Time 2014-02-04 / 16:21

Motherboard:
CPU Type DualCore Intel Core i3-2100, 3100 MHz (31 x 100)
Motherboard Name Dell PowerEdge T110 II
Motherboard Chipset Intel Cougar Point C202, Intel Sandy Bridge
System Memory 3061 MB (DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM)
DIMM2: SK Hynix HMT351U7CFR8A-H9 4 GB DDR3-1333 ECC DDR3 SDRAM (10-9-9-24 @ 666 MHz) (9-9-9-24 @ 666 MHz) (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz) (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz) (6-6-6-17 @ 457 MHz)
BIOS Type Insyde (03/13/2012)
Communication Port Puerto de comunicaciones (COM1)
Communication Port Puerto de comunicaciones (COM2)

Display:
Video Adapter Matrox G200eW (Winbond) (8 MB)
3D Accelerator Matrox G200eW

Storage:
IDE Controller Intel® 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller - 1C02
Disk Drive Cintra USB USB Device (1928 MB, USB)
Disk Drive ST1000DM003-1CH162 ATA Device (1000 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III)
Optical Drive HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM DH40N ATA Device (16x/48x DVD-ROM)
SMART Hard Disks Status OK

Partitions:
C: (NTFS) 931.4 GB (908.7 GB free)
Total Size 931.4 GB (908.7 GB free)

Input:
Keyboard Dispositivo de teclado HID
Mouse Mouse compatible con HID

Network:
Primary IP Address
Primary MAC Address
Network Adapter Conexión de red de doble puerto Gigabit Intel® 82576 (192.168.100.73)
Network Adapter Conexión de red de doble puerto Gigabit Intel® 82576
Network Adapter Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom NetXtreme

Peripherals:
Printer Fax
Printer Microsoft XPS Document Writer
USB2 Controller Intel Cougar Point PCH - USB EHCI #1 Controller [B-2]
USB2 Controller Intel Cougar Point PCH - USB EHCI #2 Controller [B-2]
USB Device Dispositivo compuesto USB
USB Device Dispositivo de almacenamiento USB
USB Device Dispositivo de entrada USB
USB Device Dispositivo de entrada USB
USB Device Dispositivo de entrada USB
USB Device Generic USB Hub
USB Device Generic USB Hub

DMI:
DMI BIOS Vendor Dell Inc.
DMI BIOS Version 2.0.5
DMI System Manufacturer Dell Inc.
DMI System Product PowerEdge T110 II
DMI System Version
DMI System Serial Number
DMI System UUID
DMI Motherboard Manufacturer Dell Inc.
DMI Motherboard Product
DMI Motherboard Version
DMI Motherboard Serial Number
DMI Chassis Manufacturer Dell Inc.
DMI Chassis Version
DMI Chassis Serial Number Chassis Serial Number
DMI Chassis Asset Tag Chassis Asset Tag
DMI Chassis Type Main Server Chassis

#7 +Bryan R.

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 16:57

I think the first question is what does your device manager look like? Missing drivers or devices not starting?



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 21:10

If you can, I'd get 64-bit on there. I don't know how much of a difference it will make, but that hardware certainly supports it.



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 21:19

I'm almost bemused as to why you'd install windows 7 on a server...



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 21:27

Really guys? You're just going to keep berating him about superficial things like 32-bit vs 64-bit when the box doesn't even have 4GB of memory or putting Windows 7 on hardware meant for Server 2008 R2, oh wait, they're practically the same! 

 

Edit: So the machine has 4GB of memory with some allocated to video and other resources. Still, there's no reason to blame the bits.

 

My best preliminary guess would be graphics related.

 

Also,

Tried Windows Server 2008 R2 (Windows 7's server equal) but nothing.

Server 2008 R2 is a 64 only OS. If you have 7 32-bit, your only chance is to use Server 2008 x86 drivers.

Noticed xpxp2002 mentioned it too.



#11 OP +riahc3

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 22:21

Hello,

Server 2008 R2 is a 64 only OS. If you have 7 32-bit, your only chance is to use Server 2008 x86 drivers.
Noticed xpxp2002 mentioned it too.

Tried Server 2008 x86 and still the same thing. The device manager shows all device installed.

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 22:27

Hello,
Tried Server 2008 x86 and still the same thing. The device manager shows all device installed.

Would be better to show a screen shot because the graphics adapter could very well look fine but is using a basic, generic driver. Also could be generic SATA controller drivers.



#13 DJGM

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 22:41

Throw an entry level AMD Radeon Gfx card in there, install the latest Catalyst drivers for it, and see how it goes from there.

That should at least resolve the Aero issue, and could work out far better than the onboard GPU that machine came with.



#14 xendrome

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 22:44

The only issue here is related to drivers, none of this has to do with which OS he has...



#15 Mobius Enigma

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 23:09

There is so much wrong with this, I don't even know where to begin.

 

1) Yank the Matrox video card, it is from 1999. The CPU has onboard Intel HD2000, which will be much faster and WDDM compliant.

2) Why Windows 7?  Windows 8 runs faster on older hardware.

3) Match your drivers via the OEM, do not use Dell that doesn't provide any drivers.(Intel, Broadcom, etc.)

4) If you want to keep the Matrox video card, use Windows 8, it will turn on DWM/Aero even with an ancient video card. (Win7 has no CPU/software DX, Win8 does)

5) At least use the x64 version of Windows 7 - so that the x64 Windows Server drivers from Dell will work.

(Just noticed they have x86 Windows 2008 Server drivers. Use them, they are Vista based and should work on Windows 7.  Use compatibility mode when installing if they don't want to install.)

 

Windows works fine, even with crazy configurations, but if the maker 'Dell' doesn't support the version of Windows you are installing, you need to get the drivers from the companies that made the hardware that Dell used. 

 

You could also install any of the Windows Server versions 'supported' from Dell, just turn off the Server features. It is the SAME CODE base as the 'client' version of Windows.