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#61 simplezz

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 20:02

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I class Dark Matter / Energy / Force, and the big bang theory under the iffy science category. It's basically all theoretical. Some might argue that DM is a mathematical fudge to account for the mysterious force called gravity (we don't even know what creates / causes it). The problem is that people treat it as real science, when it's really not. Our current models of gravitation and the universe don't work, so physicists are adopting the climate science technique of changing the data, and inventing imaginary forces.  




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Posted 07 February 2014 - 20:05

Well really that is stretching it a tad there Dot.  Plate tectonics has nothing to do with the Theories of Evolution and Survival of the Fittest.  They were two different theories. 1 explained the mechanism  evolution, and the second in how those traits passed on.

 

If you want to tie everything together without using String Theory,  Thermodynamic is a much better discipline to use than Evolution.

Not so much, I don't think. With plate tectonics, comes climate change. For example, Antarctica wasn't always under ice, and Manhattan wasn't always temperate. It used to be a desert, at one point in time, etc...  



#63 Clirion

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 20:08

Not so much, I don't think. With plate tectonics, comes climate change. For example, Antarctica wasn't always under ice, and Manhattan wasn't always temperate. It used to be a desert, at one point in time, etc...  

 

But thermodynamics can account for all of the energy exchanges that had to happen during each of those events, and the overarching conversion/conservation of Energy.



#64 simplezz

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 20:15

Evolution is a faith, you have to believe in it, it can not be proved. There is no evidence at all of evolution, most of what we are made to believe is based on elaborate assumption. I chose to believe in a loving God and Creator, you chose otherwise...

 

While Evolution (the theory of) certainly doesn't explain the actual start of life, it does make a lot of sense when you take a look around at all the variety. Not only that, but on microscopic level, we can actually see the changes in generations of bacteria and viruses. That's pretty compelling evidence for the theory.

 

I don't see any evidence provided by religion or Ham, only a book written and revised by men over hundreds of years. It doesn't explain anything. It only alludes to a supernatural being who decided to create everything on a whim. Hardly compelling is it?

 

And if there is such a loving God and Creator, why would he create deadly viruses, bacteria, parasites, natural disasters, or even man himself? After all, man is the biggest killer of life and habitat that has ever existed. Animals never sinned as Ham frequently likes to say man did, yet they're still punished by all those things.



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Posted 07 February 2014 - 21:51

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Please try to discuss this in a mature manner. It's not that difficult.

If you just want to talk about religion there is already a thread for that.

#66 mudslag

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Posted 08 February 2014 - 03:56

Evolution is a faith, you have to believe in it, it can not be proved. There is no evidence at all of evolution, most of what we are made to believe is based on elaborate assumption. I chose to believe in a loving God and Creator, you chose otherwise...

 

 

 

There is plenty of evidence for evolution, choosing not to believe in it does not make the evidence just disappear. But if you want to claim that evidence doesn't exists, by all means disprove the evidence you claim doesn't exist.  FYI creation and evolution are two entirely different topics. 





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