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#16 Ned

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 08:00

This would never work. 8.1 is not something to slipstream. Its an entirely new OS that's branded as an update. This isn't like going from SP0 to SP1 its a whole new OS. Its too soon to see how the 8.1 update 1 is going to be. My hope is its slipstreamable.

 

My bet is that it won't be.




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Posted 09 February 2014 - 19:46

Nope... Honestly this is to much trouble to be worth it and I'm just going to torrent the ISO... I am a bit worried about one other thing though. My copy is an OEM version of 8.0 Pro, will my product key work with anything I grab as long as it's a Pro version?

Hmm... does it not give you the option of skipping and activating later?



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 20:14

Nope... Honestly this is to much trouble to be worth it and I'm just going to torrent the ISO... I am a bit worried about one other thing though. My copy is an OEM version of 8.0 Pro, will my product key work with anything I grab as long as it's a Pro version?


I'm not sure, but I think the torrent ISOs are the same as the one you can download with the tool from Microsoft's site.

If it's an OEM copy that came on a branded pre-built computer it will only activate if you have the certificate from the manufacturer on the drive. The keys that are printed on the attached label for volume OEM copies don't come up as valid without that file.

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Posted 09 February 2014 - 20:45

Nope, it's the full OEM disc. Just wish this wasn't such a pain but I do understand that 8.1 was pretty much a new OS so slipstreaming it just isn't an option. But hey thanks guys for all your help as always! There's a reason why I've been here for almost twelve years now haha and that's all the great help I've gotten!

I'm not sure, but I think the torrent ISOs are the same as the one you can download with the tool from Microsoft's site.

If it's an OEM copy that came on a branded pre-built computer it will only activate if you have the certificate from the manufacturer on the drive. The keys that are printed on the attached label for volume OEM copies don't come up as valid without that file.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 20:48

I haven't looked at WinReducer yet, but since Win7 launched I'm making my own sources and using DSIM, included in the Windows Deployment and Assessment Toolkit, to slipstream updates every month and keep my installation sources up to date. With Windows 8 and 8.1 it's the same procedure.

 

Sometimes I miss the good old nLite and the way XP managed slipstreaming, though.



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Posted 09 February 2014 - 20:58

I hear ya there! I know the guy that made nLite said he's developing a new version but it'll be a while before we see anything. 

I haven't looked at WinReducer yet, but since Win7 launched I'm making my own sources and using DSIM, included in the Windows Deployment and Assessment Toolkit, to slipstream updates every month and keep my installation sources up to date. With Windows 8 and 8.1 it's the same procedure.

 

Sometimes I miss the good old nLite and the way XP managed slipstreaming, though.



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Posted 10 February 2014 - 05:04

It's great to know that. Meanwhile, I will give WinReducer a try to see if it can somehow make what I do more easily or quicker.

 

I hear ya there! I know the guy that made nLite said he's developing a new version but it'll be a while before we see anything. 



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 02:32

Okay, so I have a ISO of 8.1 now... Hoping like hell my Windows 8 key works with it... I'll report back.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 17:26

You have to install it with one of the generic product keys:
•334NH-RXG76-64THK-C7CKG-D3VPT for Core/Home*
•XHQ8N-C3MCJ-RQXB6-WCHYG-C9WKB for Professional

(These can be found in a file on the install media but I forget what it's called.)

After you install, go the system control panel (Control Panel\System and Security\System) and click "Change product key" in the lower-right corner and put your Windows 8.0 upgrade key in. You can then activate it.

So I used my key on the 8.1 ISO I got and it didn't work, so I then used the above key and it let me continue. What I'm really wanting to know now before I press on is if the above method works once I get it installed? I just don't want to install it to find out it doesn't work and end up having to redo it all again and revert back to what I had. Again thanks for any help guys!



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 19:49

So I used my key on the 8.1 ISO I got and it didn't work, so I then used the above key and it let me continue. What I'm really wanting to know now before I press on is if the above method works once I get it installed? I just don't want to install it to find out it doesn't work and end up having to redo it all again and revert back to what I had. Again thanks for any help guys!


If you're able to get it installed with the generic key for the proper version corresponding to the key you bought it should be fine. If it doesn't for some reason you can you should be able to use the slmgr.vbs script from an elevated command prompt:
 
slmgr.vbs /upk
slmgr.vbs /ipk <your key>
slmgr.vbs /ato
The first removes all keys, the second installs yours, the third activates. If it fails you may have used the wrong install key. There's a way to switch but it's a pain in the rear.

DON'T reboot after you remove the current keys with /upk or it may not boot anymore. You need to do at least the first two steps in one session.

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 20:03

If you're able to get it installed with the generic key for the proper version corresponding to the key you bought it should be fine. If it doesn't for some reason you can you should be able to use the slmgr.vbs script from an elevated command prompt:
 


slmgr.vbs /upk
slmgr.vbs /ipk <your key>
slmgr.vbs /ato
The first removes all keys, the second installs yours, the third activates. If it fails you may have used the wrong install key. There's a way to switch but it's a pain in the rear.

DON'T reboot after you remove the current keys with /upk or it may not boot anymore. You need to do at least the first two steps in one session.

 

Sounds good. I'll try it out when I get off work tonight and see how it goes.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 22:04

For me the "work around" iso creation method didn't work.  I recently reinstalled windows 8.1 on a ssd drive.  I just used an 8.1 key that I had to get the install to continue.  I was then able to change back to my 8.0 key before activating without any issues.  I didn't know about this generic key at the time though.  I've been keeping up with this thread to see what your experience is.

 

You should be able to change your key through the system settings window on the lower right hand corner of the screen.



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 02:34   Best Answer

For me the "work around" iso creation method didn't work.  I recently reinstalled windows 8.1 on a ssd drive.  I just used an 8.1 key that I had to get the install to continue.  I was then able to change back to my 8.0 key before activating without any issues.  I didn't know about this generic key at the time though.  I've been keeping up with this thread to see what your experience is.
 
You should be able to change your key through the system settings window on the lower right hand corner of the screen.


You can normally. The commands I posted are for if it doesn't work for some reason.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 07:48

Worked out great. Thanks a ton guys :)