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#151 Digitalfox

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 12:40

From my understanding, Microsoft has realized that Windows 8 brand is dead. They tried 8.1, didn't work. Update even less. And just like Vista Brand it never recovered from the early media and user bash.

 

I can see them releasing an Update 2 in 2 or 3 moths from now, with just some cumulative bug fixes and maybe a feature or two. But Windows 8.2? No, they are aiming for Windows 9 to revitalize the branding, just like Windows 7 did.

 

Windows 9 by the this time next year should be RTM or very close, there's no time and will for other small releases.

 

Heck we should be seeing Windows 9 beta even by the end of the year.

 

This is just my opinion :)




#152 OP FaiKee

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 13:54

This indeed doesn't make any kind of sence. Why would Microsoft release 2 previews of 2 different operating systems with the same purpose in the same timeframe. Also, this would make that Windows 9 follow upon Windows 8.2/8.5/whatever, extremely quick...

Couldn't comment if this makes sense or not, just reporting on what I heard. :)



#153 OP FaiKee

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:53

OK, I got some back-fires about the "make any sense" thing, that's all I could say(couldn't say any more, sorry):

- If you like win8, you will like win9

- if you like win7, you will like winthreshold(win8.x or whatever). :/



#154 Steven P.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 13:27

Hmm wonder if they will release a true touch enabled Windows 9 and keep Windows 8.x for PC? (windowed metro apps, start menu etc).



#155 George P

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 13:30

I doubt they'll split up the code base or the branding, what I think we'll get is just a touch specific SKU without the desktop and a desktop specific SKU with new menu and windowed metro apps with options in both to mix and match.

 

Windows RT should be gone as a brand though as they bring it and Windows Phone together into one.



#156 Steven P.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 13:31

I doubt they'll split up the code base or the branding, what I think we'll get is just a touch specific SKU without the desktop and a desktop specific SKU with new menu and windowed metro apps with options in both to mix and match.

 

Windows RT should be gone as a brand though as they bring it and Windows Phone together into one.

That's kind of what I said and suggested in early 2012 in an editorial I wrote :p



#157 George P

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 13:33

That's kind of what I said and suggested in early 2012 in an editorial I wrote :p

 

MS moves slow, 3 years aren't bad. heh



#158 Steven P.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 13:37

MS moves slow, 3 years aren't bad. heh

Found it http://www.neowin.ne...ndows-8-my-idea written in February 2012!



#159 OP FaiKee

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 13:54

Found it http://www.neowin.ne...ndows-8-my-idea written in February 2012!

Nadella probably had read it, after he took over ..... LOL. :laugh:



#160 Osiris

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 14:02

That doesn't really fit in with the vision of a unified platform, separate S'KU's and versions without desktops just creates confusion, least of all how that would work on a device like the Surface Pro.  I think they will continue to evolve the single platform, likely along the lines they have been doing and they did to a small extent with office.  This will mean they won't skimp on the customisations / options like they did with the original windows 8 (not giving users the option of booting to desktop) and we will likely see more detection of when touch hardware is in use to scale the menus and buttons, like what they did with office.



#161 +DConnell

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 14:07

I doubt they'll split up the code base or the branding, what I think we'll get is just a touch specific SKU without the desktop and a desktop specific SKU with new menu and windowed metro apps with options in both to mix and match.

 

Windows RT should be gone as a brand though as they bring it and Windows Phone together into one.

 

So a touch-only version for "pure" tablets, and a hybrid that you can make more desktop or more Modern as it suits you? I'm generally against splitting the UI concepts up by form factor, but this version might work.

 

Though I'm not sure what purpose a touch-specific version would have. Even the RT limited desktop still has some value to it.  It still seems like unnecessary pigeonholing to me.



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Posted 18 June 2014 - 14:07

That doesn't really fit in with the vision of a unified platform, separate S'KU's and versions without desktops just creates confusion, least of all how that would work on a device like the Surface Pro.  I think they will continue to evolve the single platform, likely along the lines they have been doing and they did to a small extent with office.  This will mean they won't skimp on the customisations / options like they did with the original windows 8 (not giving users the option of booting to desktop) and we will likely see more detection of when touch hardware is in use to scale the menus and buttons, like what they did with office.

Don't worry, MS will figure it out, that's their problem, not ours. :)



#163 George P

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 14:56

So a touch-only version for "pure" tablets, and a hybrid that you can make more desktop or more Modern as it suits you? I'm generally against splitting the UI concepts up by form factor, but this version might work.

 

Though I'm not sure what purpose a touch-specific version would have. Even the RT limited desktop still has some value to it.  It still seems like unnecessary pigeonholing to me.

 

The touch specific version without the desktop would be the OS that's both on phone and tablets, so it'd run the same universal apps and share more UI elements and overall be the same OS code wise.  That's what I think everyone expects as Windows RT isn't going to stick around as it is right now.   So a touch centric, no desktop OS for Phone and Tablets up to, say 8-9" and then a more option packed full x86 OS that can have the desktop as well (like we get now with x86 tablets) for 10" and bigger devices that has the same touch start screen UI as well that the other one does.   Finally you have the more desktop, non-touch centric option with the new menu and windowed store apps.  The key between those though is that users can pick if they want the new menu or the full start screen, that'd be the best way.

 

So really all we're talking about is taking basically WP and RT, putting them together for phones and mini-tablets and then full x86 Windows with the desktop for 10" devices and up, the version OEMs still pay licensing for btw as 9" and smaller screens is one of the requirements to get Windows at $0.



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Posted 19 June 2014 - 06:22

LOL, how is your broadband going? Another 3G download ...... :laugh:

 

Tks for the heads up by @Whazzupsuperfly in MDL Forums

 

Original post: http://www.eightforu...html#post393232

 

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#165 George P

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Posted 19 June 2014 - 08:30

If it's through the store then it's not a simple update and would be more like a 8.2 type deal like 8.1 was.   Guess we'll see in 2-3 months.