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#1 Kreuger

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 17:02

I came across this article on Escapist that talks about Nintendo's future and found myself agreeing with a lot of what Ben says. Especially that Nintendo should stop developing consoles. I'd love to hear what everyone else thinks.




#2 Lord Method Man

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 17:10

Worked out great for Sega, didn't it.

 

Stale, old gaming analyst talking point that bloggers give themselves handjobs over each time they recycle an article about it. Not much worth discussing.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 18:52

Careful, OP, saying anything even remotely negative about Ninty on here is likely to get you flamed.

 

 

Nintendo aren't in the same sort of financial mess that Sega was in.Nintendo has the money in the bank to weather this storm, the question might be "why bother"? I think Nintendo is going to be in third place platform wise this entire generation, and unless they pull out some amazing ###### with the Wii U, it might be a bit of a write-off for them.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:03

Sega is no more. It is now Sammy-Sega and is mostly a pachinko machine maker.
 
So i sure do hope NIntendo doesn't make like Sega.
 
I'm surprised there's still people who think Sega was extremely successful as a publisher. For one the company we used to know doesn't exist anymore. For two unless i'm wrong most of the revenue of the Sega-Sammy holdings come from pachinko/pachislot machines.
 

The most important segment of the company is Sammy's Pachinko / Pachislot segment. In the past 80% of profits was generated in the Pachislot business.


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:09

Agreed, even though the Wii U isn't all that great, it IS selling and Nintendo does have the financial backing to make an uber spec'd console, the question is, how would it set itself apart from the XB1 and PS4?



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:11

I actually wish Sega would release a new console. I miss the Genesis/Mega Drive and Dreamcast days.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:14

Sega is no more. It is now Sammy-Sega and is mostly a pachinko machine maker.
 
So i sure do hope NIntendo doesn't make like Sega.
 
I'm surprised there's still people who think Sega was extremely successful as a publisher. For one the company we used to know doesn't exist anymore. For two unless i'm wrong most of the revenue of the Sega-Sammy holdings come from pachinko/pachislot machines.
 

http://en.wikipedia....ings#Operations

Sammy is Sega. In fact, all the games they release nowadays don't mention the Sammy part at all, so Sega still exists even if they aren't as popular as they used to be. :)



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:23

Sammy is Sega. In fact, all the games they release nowadays don't mention the Sammy part at all, so Sega still exists even if they aren't as popular as they used to be. :)

 
It is the other way around i think. Sega is Sammy.
 
It's a name. The name of a subsidiary. Of course between Sega and Sammy (both were making games before) they will use the most popular name for the video games division which is Sega. But the guy at the head of the holding company (Hajime Satomi) is the past CEO and founder of of sammy. Sega is now a subsidiary probably under Sammy control. Not sure they can do whatever they want.
 

Sammy Corporation, Japan's largest slot machine maker bought out ailing videogame maker Sega Corporation in 2004 for $394 million. Hajime Satomi heads the newly combined $4.5 billion (sales) group, now called Sega Sammy Holdings Inc. with its main businesses being those of Sammy Corporation and Sega Corporation. As a result, Sega Sammy Holdings had grown by 2005 to become one of the top 60 enterprises in Japan, based on recurring income.


This is different than Square-Enix which was formed as the result of a merge between two great rpg developers and publishers. Unless i'm wrong (and i could be finance and business is not my cup of tea) Sammy did buy Sega and merged its own kinda weak video games development studio with Sega whose name was more popular. Anyway the last time i've seen the sega logo at the beginning of a game was a long, long time ago.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:34

Personally i think that if Nintendo and Valve merged it could be very very interesting XD



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:50

I perfer this news headline from forbes: Microsoft should give xbox one to nintendo

http://www.forbes.co...-to-nintendo/2/



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:50

 
It is the other way around i think. Sega is Sammy.
 
It's a name. The name of a subsidiary. Of course between Sega and Sammy (both were making games before) they will use the most popular name for the video games division which is Sega. But the guy at the head of the holding company (Hajime Satomi) is the past CEO and founder of of sammy. Sega is now a subsidiary under Sammy control.
 

This is different than Square-Enix which was formed as the result of a merge between two great rpg developers and publishers. Unless i'm wrong (and i could be finance and business is not my cup of tea) Sammy did buy Sega and merged its own video games development studio with Sega whose name was more popular. Anyway the last time i've seen the sega logo at the beginning of a game was a long, long time ago.

Hmm, OK. Thing is, I've never seen the Sammy branding appear in any recent Sega game, so the merge really doesn't matter as even though Sammy bought Sega and changed it to Sammy-Sega, it seems that the Sega brand is stronger than Sammy's and means that it could technically be that Sega is Sammy.  This is proven by the fact that a lot of people didn't even know that Sammy existed until you mentioned it. :)



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:56

Definitely not. SEGA never recovered and I'm sure Nintendo would struggle too. Their strength comes from the marriage between hardware and software.

 

I think Yahztee is stuck in the past himself ironically, if he thinks SMG was the last good game from Nintendo that pushed the boundaries of their games. Just about every IP they own was improved upon during the Wii's lifetime.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:57

I perfer this news headline from forbes: Microsoft should give xbox one to nintendo

http://www.forbes.co...-to-nintendo/2/

 

Nah i still think a merge between Nintendo and Valve could potentially be a lot more fun. The fanboys war would totally explose. That would be so fun to see this happens.


Definitely not. SEGA never recovered and I'm sure Nintendo would struggle too. Their strength comes from the marriage between hardware and software.

 

I think Yahztee is stuck in the past himself ironically, if he thinks SMG was the last good game from Nintendo that pushed the boundaries of their games. Just about every IP they own was improved upon during the Wii's lifetime.

 

I tried the last Mario game and it is a really fun game. One of the best game i played lately. Not enough to make me want to buy that crazy tablet controller but still great fun.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 19:58

Well they can't do any worse. Plus they have some really good franchises they could release on other systems and make a butt load of money. Metroid 51 anyone?



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 20:03

Nah i still think a merge between Nintendo and Valve could potentially be a lot more fun. The fanboys war would totally explose. That would be so fun to see this happens.


 

I tried the last Mario game and it is a really fun game. One of the best game i played lately. Not enough to make me want to buy that crazy tablet controller but still great fun.

I agree with what your saying.

That's mostly why i come to Neowin now is to laugh at the fanboys.

Also it would be pretty epic to have a team fortress game with Nintendo characters.