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Why did Opera become Chrome?


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#61 HawkMan


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 12:10

I miss the ability to run private tabs instead of a new damn window... So backwards...

I also don't see how a bookmark UI or even complete system isn't something a UI coder couldn't do over a single weekend. What's taking so long...

#62 Boo Berry

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 12:18

Okay, decided to try Opera again with the Neater Bookmarks extension. It's not bad. Not bad at all actually. The only thing I wish I could do is extend the height of the popup, but that's not possible due to a Chromium limitation. I'll try the browser for a few days and see if I want to keep it installed.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 10:17

The new Firefox aint that bad.

#64 HawkMan


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Posted 21 May 2014 - 18:37

The new Firefox aint that bad.

Ok, and that's relevant to the topic how?

#65 ViperAFK


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Posted 30 June 2014 - 21:58

The new opera has actually been growing on me. Once it gets sync support I might switch to it.


What I'm liking about it:


Stash: after using this for a while I think its a great feature. You get full text search for any page that you put into stash. i.e., if you go into stash you can search for any string of text contained within the page, even if its not in the page title or URL. For example I just went into stash, typed "Video/Audio", and it resulted in two firefox bugzilla bug reports that were filed under Video/Audio in bugzilla. http://i.imgur.com/ocNDn7g.jpg


At first I thought I wouldn't like stash, because it doesn't have tagging like firefox's bookmarks (I often use firefox's "Unsorted bookmarks" folder, similar to how one would use stash, and I would tag everything I put into there to make it easy to find), but with the stash's full text search I don't think tags are even necessary, you pretty much get them automatically via the text contained in the page.


The one thing that kills stash at the moment, is lack of being able to sync it between devices, but once opera sync arrives this will be a killer feature IMO. It would also be nice if you could search stash from the URLbar.


Speed Dial: Well, this one didn't have to grow on me, I've loved speed dial ever since they first implemented it in the old opera, and I still love it :) IMO its both more user friendly and far more customizable than the awful new tab pages found in IE, Chrome, Firefox. It seems like the new tab pages in these browsers go out of their way to make it as janky as possible to add pages to the new tab page, customize their placement etc... With the speed dial its intuitive and works just as you'd expect it to (Very easy to manually ad pages, re-organize them, organize them into folders, and you can even right click on the tab strip to easily save a group of tabs as a folder in one click), and looks damn nice on top of that. I've tried various speed dial extensions for chrome and firefox, but didn't like any of them nearly as much as opera's speed dial.


Mouse Gestures: Very handy to have mouse gestures integrated out of the box, forgot how much I liked them :) I just wish they'd re-add the tab-scrolling gesture from opera 12 (hold right click + scroll to scroll through tabs). they've already re-added the rocker gestures though, so hopefully they will add this as well.


Extensions Flexibility: Obviously not nearly as flexible as firefox :) but it does have the advantage of not being locked down to the chrome web store like chrome. You can install extensions from the opera extension site, manually with .crx files (without having to use dev channel), and there's even an opera extension that allows installing extensions from the google web store.


Interface: I'll group the rest here, as they are all small but nice interface touches:



1. Bookmark "Here". In the bookmarks toolbar, there is a "Add Page" entry under every folder, which allows you to directly add a bookmark to a specific folder in just one click.


2. "Search With". When highlighting text and right clicking, not only do you get a search option, but you also get a search with option with a list of all your search engines. Small but very handy feature that Chrome and Firefox lack, although IE has something similar with search accelerators.


3. Recently closed tab list isn't limited to 8-10 entries like chrome/firefox, you get a big scrollable list.


4. Downloads pop up shows download speed. Its always annoyed me in chrome in fx that you have to go to the full downloads page just to view download speed.


The interface also seems to use a lot more native elements than recent versions of chrome/firefox which is nice (especially chrome with its ugly hardcoded context menus). With opera pretty much every menu is a native windows style menu, except for some reason the speed dial has a hardcoded win7 style context menu, but thats probably a bug). I also like how it adapts to windows 8 with nice flat/squared tabs.

#66 Denis W.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 05:38

You can enable sync via opera://flags/#sync - I've had it on for a while since they enabled it in the developer builds and it works fine. Every couple of days you'll have to refresh your login which is annoying.

It syncs over Speed Dials and the Stash - no bookmarks (can use the Xmarks Chrome extension for that), passwords (Lastpass works), history, settings, or extensions.


I like to think of Opera as a 'saner' Chrome, since Chrome's UI direction is going off the deep end lately. Not just on Windows - comparing the bookmark bar menus for Opera and Chrome on Mac, the menus for Opera fit in more than the ugly menus Chrome uses. It's quite amusing since for the longest time, the classic Opera had the most out-of-place UI where native controls didn't quite fit in.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 14:08

Still using 12.16, I can't stop - love the smooth scrolling too much :D, there was even a native 64bit build, not that it really matters to - but at least it's consisent. If it looked/behaved the same like 12, i'm in. Right now it feels bloated, heavy and unpolished to the max. Kind of like Chrome... at least to me.

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Posted 09 July 2014 - 14:15

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