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#46 Dot Matrix

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 16:41

Windows 2k Will go down  as one of my favorite version of Windows. I love everything about it. I love the barebones no glitz login.

Looks like you and I can finally agree on something. Windows 2000 will always be one of my favorite releases.




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Posted 07 April 2014 - 17:39

Except it was the technically inclined that killed both Vista and 8 with unnecessary scaremongering because they had experienced an issue or didn't get along with its UI.  Neither was of worse quality than XP when it was released, even Vista despite its bugs.  The technically minded hold a lot more sway with the less technically minded than they realise.

 

I have to agree with this. Everyone I've shown 8 to is at least ok with it, if not outright positive. They might still prefer the more familiar classic UI, but they don't hate Modern or think it's worthless.

 

I just tell them why I like it, and some of the differences, and encourage them to try it and make up their own minds.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 15:14

I just got a call from a customer who said he bought a computer from my competitor down town. Apparently as late as 2009 he was putting XP on Computers that came with Window 7, telling at least this customer that "You'll like Windows XP better than 7"

 

Now he's bringing the computer over and I"m using that product key on the side of the computer to upgrade him to where he should have been the ENTIRE TIME!

 

I would bet my life on the fact that he has never even touched Windows 8. In fact he told me one time that if customers come in his office ask as to be upgrade to "Windows 8" he said he won't do it. *face palm*

 

I talked to him in his office a few months ago and at that point he had still never even seen or used an SSD yet.



#49 AnotherITguy

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 11:47

Yup, one of my clients still has 2 XP PRO machines, and its April 10th!



#50 Max Norris

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 11:55

Yup, one of my clients still has 2 XP PRO machines, and its April 10th!

Eh if they haven't upgraded after three major versions have been released, they never will, a date on the calendar probably won't change that.

 

To be honest I'm guilty as charged as well. All of my Windows systems in the house are a mix of 7 and 8... except this one junker tablet which will be forever stuck on XP Tablet Edition due to the hardware.  (And frankly it barely runs XP too.)  Not that I ever actually use the thing anymore, powered it up yesterday to do the final updates, probably the first time it's been used in a year at least.



#51 AnotherITguy

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 11:59

Now, now, don't kill my hopes, I'm going into a meeting with him today to pitch him on upgrading to a $320 dell desktop with Windows 8.1



#52 PGHammer

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 14:00

I just got a call from a customer who said he bought a computer from my competitor down town. Apparently as late as 2009 he was putting XP on Computers that came with Window 7, telling at least this customer that "You'll like Windows XP better than 7"

 

Now he's bringing the computer over and I"m using that product key on the side of the computer to upgrade him to where he should have been the ENTIRE TIME!

 

I would bet my life on the fact that he has never even touched Windows 8. In fact he told me one time that if customers come in his office ask as to be upgrade to "Windows 8" he said he won't do it. *face palm*

 

I talked to him in his office a few months ago and at that point he had still never even seen or used an SSD yet.

And you wonder why I get angry with folks that have not only won't try a new OS or application, but badmouth it without having tried it.

 

As much as I loathe virtual keyboards (and i loathe every implmentation equally, regardless of OS), why is it I don't loathe touch as a UX/UI?

 

The reason I loathe virtual keyboards is due to the lack of a feedback mechanism - I loathe membrane keyboards for the same reason.  (It's why my Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 6000 V. 3.0 got chosen five years ago, despite its age - it has the solid feedback that a good mechanical keyboard doesn't lose, especially over time, it works with any computer supporting USB - including every Mac at least as far back as Tiger - all without sacrificing the convenience and lack of wire-clutter that is a wireless keyboard's reason for existing.)  The tough part is finding a worthy successor for when I eventually decide to replace it - the three reasons why the Microsoft Wireless Keyboard got chosen still apply - mechanical keys, tactile feedback, and sturdiness, while wireless (again, why suffer from wiring clutter if avoidable?).  So far, the list of contenders is all of four - two each from Microsoft and Logitech.  Microsoft, naturally, has the inside track (Sculpt Comfort and Sculpt Ergo); however, I haven't counted out Logitech's pair of wireless mechanical keyboards (despite their higher prices).  I still want some hands-on with all four contenders (fortunately both Staples and MicroCenter routinely stock the four contending keyboards in all their locations), and I'm not in a hurry.

 

Don't knock what you have NOT tried personally - whether it's a new OS or a new or improved application.



#53 PGHammer

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Posted 20 April 2014 - 19:03

XP Was awesome in 2001.

 

 

 

It was the end of the old era of crappy 8 bit cpm/dos legacy crap with assembly code and crashes. It was a new era. An era where a modern kernel that worked with CPUs made in 1990 and forward with protected memory, preemptive multitasking, and internet enabled. It was a new golden age compared to th garbage of WinMe and the 65,000 bugs of win 95

 

For corps it had group policy and management. For users it didn't crash and worked! They stayed for many years. VISTA was terrible so they kept XP. Win 7 came and it looked like scary Vista with a blue theme ...stick with XP!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Then they see Windows 8 at the best buy. You expect them to change?? They remember what times were like before XP. They liked the past like Italians remember the Romans. Now if it ain't. Broke don't. Fix it

Sounds like you came from 98SE.

 

I migrated from that OS a year earlier (to 2000 Professional) because ME was too insecure in terms of networking AND committed the even greater sin of having slower throughput, and over dial-up, no less, than 2000 Pro back to beta 2 (when it was still wearing NT 5 clothing).  98 SE (and ME) therefore had zero chance when I found out that Big Cable Company (which had purchased the cable company where I lived) was bringing cable modems to that same county; they had a kiosk setup at a nearby (to where I was going for my certification) shopping mall, and guess what OS they had on the kiosk hardware?  (It wasn't 98SE - or ME, for that matter; it was NT4WS on one - which Big Cable was running as their default OS, and 2000 Pro on the other.)  I didn't have hardware compatibility as an issue - surprisingly, I didn't really have software compatibility as an issue, either; all my must-have applications and games made the trip without a hassle.  I had ONE quibble - no TV tuner support was included - I had to go third-party for that. (Remember, I was still running ATI AIWs as my disgrete graphics card at the time - which I would, in fact, keep on doing for another five years.)  However, I admitted it WAS a quibble - therefore, the crossgrade still happened.  (Within three months I had crossgraded myself - from Big Cable customer to Big Cable employee; six months after that, Big Cable started their enterprise-wide client upgrade - from NT4WS to 2000 Professional.  The holdup was ONE line-of-business application - which, it turned out, was used quite a bit in some of the cable systems that Big Cable was acquiring at the time - and the developer was being "sticky" about it.  It wasn't even the whole application - it was one DLL in that application that was causing the issue.  The hardware wasn't the issue (Dell Optiplexes with Pentium Pro CPUs for the most part), and the other productivity OR line-of-business software wasn't the issue, either.  But we got held up over that one DLL for six months.)

 

When Vista went into beta, I migrated quite easily (and happily); however, I didn't have the hardware woes that gave Vista such a rotten reputation, either.  No non-discrete graphics (while I had migrated away from AIWs, I stayed with ATI for discrete graphics - moving from the 97xx series to the X1K series - and thus staying current), and I still had a Creative audio card (X-Fi XtrremeGamer low-profile - I upgraded so my mom could move from onboard audio) which I had no issues with, either (I would not get bit by the hardware bug because I didn't exactly have that amount of RAM to GET bit at the time).