ACTIONpack Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 The last few days now Fox News has been putting down anything that has to do with the Affordable Care Act. From calling Brandy Cooper a tool for helping out Obama's webcam to laughing at the numbers of what people sign up. I just do get it. They must hate poor because the act mostly help poor people who can't get insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 What is 'affordable' to the poor, is costing others a lot more money. The idea is to keep down the cost of government, and taking so much from the Haves, and giving to the Have nots. The Deficit spending is rapidly approaching 18 trillion dollars. The taxpayers can not support the millions who are poor and Unemployed. Eventually, the USA is going to go bankrupt, and no one will be getting Assistance. Too many in one Lifeboat .... +John Teacake, Nogib, Charisma and 4 others 7 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted April 5, 2014 MVC Share Posted April 5, 2014 Fox news cater's to a specific audience, so they give them the slant / information they want to here. Dick Montage, Stoffel and SecretAgentMan 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Fox News caters to a specific audience, so they give them the slant / information they want to hear. And MSNBC caters to the Democrats and liberals. ;) robertwnielsen and Nogib 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted April 5, 2014 MVC Share Posted April 5, 2014 And MSNBC caters to the Democrats and liberals. ;) Agree I don't watch Fox or Msnbc, The problem that's happening different groups want to hear news that sounds good to them, you get your self in a "bubble" and it can distort your perception. Same reason I don't watch local news, all negative, with random out of context left / right talking points, which slants your view of your local community. Here's an experiment, check out Aljazeera American (http://america.aljazeera.com/), see the stories in the "News" vs what they have in "Opinion". Compare there news and opinion articles to Fox / MSNBC "News" stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 What is 'affordable' to the poor, is costing others a lot more money. The idea is to keep down the cost of government, and taking so much from the Haves, and giving to the Have nots. The Deficit spending is rapidly approaching 18 trillion dollars. The taxpayers can not support the millions who are poor and Unemployed. Eventually, the USA is going to go bankrupt, and no one will be getting Assistance. Too many in one Lifeboat .... I agree with you, but here's a thought. How much better off would we be financially if we would stop fighting wars in every cesspool country on the face of the planet and meddling in foreign political affairs? How many trillions of dollars have we spent in Iraq and Afghanistan alone that would have been better spent minding our own business and just going after Osama bin Laden using Rangers, Special Forces, SEALs, and other "in and out" special operations groups? We went into those countries, blew entire cities all to hell, executed Saddam when, bad as he might have been, kept people like the Taliban and Al Qaeda from taking over, and then all of a sudden there we were/are, stuck in two endless wars against a faceless enemy who does not wear a uniform with no clearly defined objectives to define "victory". We're just fighting "terror", an open ended term used to keep us fighting for nothing for as long as the American people will put up with it, because the military industrial complex has taken over. Our entire economy "depends" on us being at war. If we're not giving freedom to somebody, we're losing money. szo, Hum, Stoffel and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKay Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Because they're stupid and can't seem to buy more money. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Because they're stupid and can't seem to buy more money. Idiots. Exactly! Poor people should just stop being poor. Poverty is a lifestyle choice and Fox is exposing that living below the poverty line is an unAmerican choice people make. It's the same with veterans diagnosed with "PTSD". Cry babies. You've put your life on the line protecting the status quo, you should stop complaining! (I shouldn't have to say it, but I am being sarcastic) COKid, Stoffel and Nick H. 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKay Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Exactly! Poor people should just stop being poor. Poverty is a lifestyle choice and Fox is exposing that living below the poverty line is an unAmerican choice people make. It's the same with veterans diagnosed with "PTSD". Cry babies. You've put your life on the line protecting the status quo, you should stop complaining! (I should have to say it, but I am being sarcastic) I felt my post was so ridiculous it did not require a sarcasm tag. Nick H. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compl3x Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I felt my post was so ridiculous it did not require a sarcasm tag. I understood your sarcasm, but this is the internet! The most ridiculous ideas are expressed and it is hard to tell whether people are being serious or not. I err on the side of caution and add a sarcasm tag :) Depicus 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I agree with you, but here's a thought. How much better off would we be financially if we would stop fighting wars in every cesspool country on the face of the planet and meddling in foreign political affairs? How many trillions of dollars have we spent in Iraq and Afghanistan alone that would have been better spent minding our own business ... I agree 100% -- Bush 1 & 2 got the deficit rolling with Wars, and Obama has shot it thru the roof. We should take care of our own backyard, before nosing in others. Nogib 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macoman Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 What is 'affordable' to the poor, is costing others a lot more money. The idea is to keep down the cost of government, and taking so much from the Haves, and giving to the Have nots. The Deficit spending is rapidly approaching 18 trillion dollars. The taxpayers can not support the millions who are poor and Unemployed. Eventually, the USA is going to go bankrupt, and no one will be getting Assistance. Too many in one Lifeboat .... so you prefer to have these "poor" uninsured people without insurance like we were before or prefer them to pay a monthly fee or pay a penalty? Which one is more fiscally affordable for the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman273 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Here's my opinion on the wars we fight. First of all, I'm far from pro-war but I truly feel that there are many international "incidents" (for lack of a better word) that would influence us at home. I'm not sure what they are because I think they are mostly kept from the general populace. Burying our head in the sand and making believe nothing is happening beyond our borders could make our situation worse. The reason I think this is because I see a president like Obama, who obviously knew what people didn't like about Bush and campaigned strongly against it (get out of the middle east, close Guantanamo, etc.). Then he becomes president and doesn't do those things. I think that once you are in the position of president and are given the type of information that the president gets then you realize that there may be reasons to do or not to do certain things that we don't understand or agree with. Gerowen 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liana Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Fox News is critical of just about anything related to president Obama, and probably the Affordable Care Act most of all. That would be fine if it were all based around facts and logical reasoning, and some of it is, but a lot of it is based around opinion, misinformation, and half-truths. And MSNBC caters to the Democrats and liberals. ;) I watch snippets of MSNBC programs every now and then, and I have to say that Ed Schultz, or at least his show, is just awful and painful to watch. I can't stomach commentator shows like that anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I used to listen to CBS News Radio in the morning at work until one of their commentators said that atheists are the cause of most of the violence in the world. They lost all my respect with that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCA Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Question is Why does Neowin hate fox news? lol robertwnielsen and Nogib 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 The last few days now Fox News has been putting down anything that has to do with the Affordable Care Act. > Fox is only reflectinhg the majority viewpoint of ObamaCare. Since the day it passed its disapproval has run 50% or higher (usually 55%+) and its approval has averaged below 40%, often below 38%. Doesn't matter much which poll. It is a VERY unpopular law. It's on track to be a financial disaster because the large pool of young, healthy people necessary to pay for the older adults and infirm are not signing up - it's cheaper to pay the fine. Those who are signing up are discovering that their out of pocket costs have skyrocketed, more than exceeding any reduced premium costs due to the subsidy. Not good for those with chronic conditions whose out of pocket expenses fall into a new, often large, donut hole. So, if anything Fox is preaching to an already p*ssed off choir. How angry the voters are can be seen in how deep into panic mode the Democrats in the runup to this falls elections. Even the Democrats own internal polls show Republicans gaining seats in the House, and very possibly taking over the Senate. Some major Democrat analysts say a Republican takeover in the Senate is a virtual lock. robertwnielsen, Lord Method Man and Nogib 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted April 13, 2014 MVC Share Posted April 13, 2014 Fox is only reflectinhg the majority viewpoint of ObamaCare. Since the day it passed its disapproval has run 50% or higher (usually 55%+) and its approval has averaged below 40%, often below 38%. Doesn't matter much which poll. It is a VERY unpopular law. It's on track to be a financial disaster because the large pool of young, healthy people necessary to pay for the older adults and infirm are not signing up - it's cheaper to pay the fine. Those who are signing up are discovering that their out of pocket costs have skyrocketed, more than exceeding any reduced premium costs due to the subsidy. Not good for those with chronic conditions whose out of pocket expenses fall into a new, often large, donut hole. So, if anything Fox is preaching to an already p*ssed off choir. How angry the voters are can be seen in how deep into panic mode the Democrats in the runup to this falls elections. Even the Democrats own internal polls show Republicans gaining seats in the House, and very possibly taking over the Senate. Some major Democrat analysts say a Republican takeover in the Senate is a virtual lock. Fox is reflecting the the right sided view, while MSNBC is reflecting the left sided view. I do believe the real view is somewhere between them. Prices have come down for some groups, and gone up on other's. Not gone up for everyone as you suggest. It's too soon to be able call the election (final outcome / balance of power). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadEndAccount Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 What is 'affordable' to the poor, is costing others a lot more money. The idea is to keep down the cost of government, and taking so much from the Haves, and giving to the Have nots. The Deficit spending is rapidly approaching 18 trillion dollars. The taxpayers can not support the millions who are poor and Unemployed. Eventually, the USA is going to go bankrupt, and no one will be getting Assistance. Too many in one Lifeboat .... The law was a horrible idea especially for those of us who want a single payer healthcare system. The biggest problem is this - there is more than enough money but there is an unwillingness by politicians to live within the means and more importantly make choices between having government largess that props up the military industry complex and prison industry or re-evaluating priorities based on what the average citizen needs. Btw the biggest problem with Obamacare is all the kickbacks given to drug companies etc. I really wish it were a true reform rather than a plan that made things worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3X4S Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I thought everyone hates poor people.... j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Fox is reflecting the the right sided view.... Which in this case coincides with the majority view. Obfuscation doesn't change that. Waving the MSNBC flag doesn't change it either. This law and those who forced it on an unwilling populace are circling the drain my friend. robertwnielsen 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krome Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Hatred kills. Practice with caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Giving people false hope isn't good either. The Bronze Obamacare policies low income folks will get are often far worse than what they had through their employers, who the law allows to cancel their workers coverage and dump them into the exchange. In a further Obamacare perversion the per-employee fine for employers who dump their workers is less than the cost of continuing their coverage, incentivising cancellations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 The last few days now Fox News has been putting down anything that has to do with the Affordable Care Act. From calling Brandy Cooper a tool for helping out Obama's webcam to laughing at the numbers of what people sign up. I just do get it. They must hate poor because the act mostly help poor people who can't get insurance. Ah come on, if its one thing they do well its telling you why they don't like them. Their reasoning and logic for their dislike may be somewhat further away from reality than yours but they are very clear with telling you what their problem with the poor is why the poor are such a roving bad of misfits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3X4S Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Ive been on both sides of the economic scale - poverty made me a better person, money made me an ass -- so I was told. :) Krome 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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