bigmehdi Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Today has started a kickstarter related to foobar2000. They want to port/adapt this popular player to the most used mobile platform today ( iPhone, iPad, Android, Windows Phone & tablets). They are offering some rewards (look at the video). All details here: http://mobile.foobar2000.com/ You can also take a look at their official forum thread: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=105304 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted April 10, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted April 10, 2014 Their goal seems quite ambitious. Not only that, but what happens if I donate to the Early Bird Android option but they only raise $100,000? Do I get my money back, seeing as how they won't create an Android app until they hit $200,000? That's my understanding of their plan, anyway. Romero 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 200k for the Android version? I'm sorry, but no thanks! There are more than enough free and good players on the android market. Not to speak about the non-free ones, like Poweramp (which is way cheaper than the minimum 50$ that you have to pay to get the player on your device... if it's going to be supported at the end). edit: $25 and not $50. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfster Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 It does seem ambitious, But foobar2000 is probable the best player on any platform. I have not seen anything come close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obry Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 VLC is already doing much better with much less - their goals are way too high. grik 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 VLC is already doing much better with much less - their goals are way too high. You can also stream anything from the PC to your mobile device using VLC Direct Pro (which is free by the way). That's better for me than a cloud service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I stream with VLC and Tonido, for movies and music, that said I'd love to have foobar on Android, but $200K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romero Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Huh, Peter and co. seem to have changed their tune all of a sudden. Back when the Surface was released I sent mails and posted on many program fora requesting the devs to release Metro versions of their apps, both for x86 and ARM. Peter (or was it Kode54) refused outright. Wonder why they're suddenly so interested? Perhaps the opportunity to lay their hands on a nice chunk of change? (To clarify, I think fb2k is an awesome player and these guys have so far done a wonderful job with it.)$300,000 for Windows Phone and Tablet versions? Does that include Windows RT/ARM support? Regardless this tier looks a bit doubtful and after the crappy VLC experience I'm not sure I want to go through another drama like that ever again. But who knows, if these guys make it they might even release WP and ARM versions (if that's part of the goal) before VLC is ever released on those platforms. :/Will the final app be free or paid? If the latter I guess they haven't decided how much it'll cost yet? (If it was mentioned somewhere I must have missed it, only skimmed the page quickly.) Edit: There will be two versions of foobar2000 mobile, a free and fully featured premium version. The elements Cloud, Streaming and Social may, or may not have subscription fees attached. Will the free version have ads? As for the "fully featured premium version", is it the free version with the addition of cloud, social and streaming? What if these 3 goals aren't met? I think $500,000, $700,000 and $1,000,000 are really over the top (and 1.3 million dollars for What's in Store? Wow! :o), but who knows. Guess we'll find out in a couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Berry Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 It does seem ambitious, But foobar2000 is probable the best player on any platform. I have not seen anything come close to it. JRiver Media Center. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romero Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Expectations have been revised downwards and campaign's been updated accordingly. Windows versions have been unfortunately axed (for now, they say) and Android tier merged with the base iOS one. Social and Cloud stretch goals more realistic now, Streaming and Store goals removed. Personally I'd have kept Streaming and gotten rid of Social. Hopefully the campaign does well. I might donate for the Android version even though I have no real use for it. Waiting for the Metro version to be announced again but looks like they'll not work on it, if ever, before mid to even late 2015 at least going by their announced schedule. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I like the new goals better. Still have doubts about it, but will go for the $25 option to support the project a bit. Hopefully even if the minimum goal won't be reached, we still gonna see foobar2k on android in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulpian Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I find Peter P. one of the lowest morons I ever met in virtual space. So no, I'll never give him even a penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Will the free version have ads? The dev said he doesn't want the free version to have ads: I find this quite funny, because I asked about this almost a year ago...! I did too and received the same "Never!" answer. So what's changed? 1) Can someone clarify whether the Windows Tablet (Metro) version will support x86 devices only or ARM ones too? 2) Will the free version have ads? (Hope not!) How much will the "fully featured premium version" cost? 3) What will differentiate the "fully featured premium version" from the free one? Lack of ads (if any) and the addition of cloud, social and streaming? What if these 3 goals aren't met? 4) I suppose it is way too early to talk about the store, especially since that goal may never be reached? I want to (eventually) know which labels you've tied up with, what will be the formats supported (lossless?), cost per track/album and many more things. 1) I will need to clarify this with the other developers, 2) I hope not also, I push for the free version to be advert free. The cost has not been finalized, it will however be in the same league as similar offerings from competitors, 3) It would miss certain features of the paid version, again not finalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 VLC is already doing much better with much less - their goals are way too high. Ummm VLC is a movie playr(primarily) and not a very good one at that sure it played "everything" but it's not nearly the best quality. But for audio... No I would choose something,... Anything, else. Though foobar2000 for mobile... I really don't see the point. The only market I see it having a purpose is android since they have such a ###### selection of OOB music players, but there's already so many alternatives, so many that it's hard to find the good alternatives in the sea of crap. But for WP/RT and iOS, no I don't see why you'd go with an over complicated player like this over the built in one. Sure it supports more formats, but that's not really and issue when it comes to music anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 It does seem ambitious, But foobar2000 is probable the best player on any platform. I have not seen anything come close to it. Maybe you haven't had your eyes open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfster Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 If the alternative is VLC it really sucks for audio. Its not even great for Video. Foobar2000 audio quality is better then anything I have heard. If you have alternative then lets hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 If the alternative is VLC it really sucks for audio. Its not even great for Video. Foobar2000 audio quality is better then anything I have heard. If you have alternative then lets hear it. Foobars audio quality is actually in general the same as every other music player that doesn't apply DSP unless you do it. Arguably you could say that using wasapi or kernel audio gives better sound. But no bad test has really proven this, and then you have to live with no other sounds from the computer while Foobar is running. Foobars strength is in the highly customizable UI and the amounts of plugins. Using a combined double view of library on one side and directory view of the library on the other, I can easily go through my music in the artists folder and fix bad tags, and it has the best working UPnP server. None of which is relevant on a mobile device or tablet really. Romero 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfster Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Foobars audio quality is actually in general the same as every other music player that doesn't apply DSP unless you do it. Arguably you could say that using wasapi or kernel audio gives better sound. But no bad test has really proven this, and then you have to live with no other sounds from the computer while Foobar is running. Foobars strength is in the highly customizable UI and the amounts of plugins. Using a combined double view of library on one side and directory view of the library on the other, I can easily go through my music in the artists folder and fix bad tags, and it has the best working UPnP server. None of which is relevant on a mobile device or tablet really. This is actually your opinion they are not facts I have not seen any study that says differently. If you have a link to study believe provide it. There many players that customizable but there are few that are popular as foobar. To my ears foobar sounds better then any player I have tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 This is actually your opinion they are not facts I have not seen any study that says differently. If you have a link to study believe provide it. There many players that customizable but there are few that are popular as foobar. To my ears foobar sounds better then any player I have tried. That would be an opinion, show me facts where ABX tests prove foobar has better sound, even die hard foobar fans admit it doesn't. and that's not why you should use it. there are discussion about this on their forum all the time. it reads the files and outputs whats in the files bit for bit like every other player without enhancements or DSP's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc2003 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 http://www.foobar2000.org/FAQ Does foobar2000 sound better than other players? No. Most of ?sound quality differences? people ?hear? are placebo effect (at least with real music), as actual differences in produced sound data are below their noise floor (1 or 2 last bits in 16bit samples). foobar2000 has sound processing features such as software resampling or 24bit output on new high-end soundcards, but most of the other mainstream players are capable of doing the same by now. Romero 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfster Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I think on low end systems foobar doesn't take as much resources as other players so it may sound better it also has better features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I think on low end systems foobar doesn't take as much resources as other players so it may sound better it also has better features. That's not how it works. you would need a pretty old pentium model to not be able to decode music files. and the features was what I already said to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmehdi Posted April 12, 2014 Author Share Posted April 12, 2014 What I like the most on foobar200, is the tabbed playlist. It doesn't seem other players offer this. Otherwise it's quite customizable, but it takes some time to get familiar with these possibilities. Also you can tag easily. Oh , also I use a lot the VST adapter, as I like to play with DSP. Here's how my interface is currently customized. It's basic, but enough convenient: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfster Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 That's not how it works. you would need a pretty old pentium model to not be able to decode music files. and the features was what I already said to start with. Yes that how it works some... people still use old pentiums. You don't know what your talking about. There are lot of plugins that not available on foobar that aren't availble on other music players. If you know of other music players that have same sort of plugins please say so. I don't really see you listing any alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Yes that how it works some... people still use old pentiums. You don't know what your talking about. There are lot of plugins that not available on foobar that aren't availble on other music players. If you know of other music players that have same sort of plugins please say so. I don't really see you listing any alternatives. ummm there's a ton and a half of music players that support plugins, in fact most do... and no there isn't really anyone who use computers old enough that the speed of the cpu would affect the music playback, because at that point, the cpu is so slow you can't really use the computer for anything else we played high quality MP3s back on old 486 computers. while doing other stuff, on non multitasking 16 bit OS' back in the day. And as I said before I use Foobar, I even listed why I use foobar, I just don't see any reason to have it on a mobile device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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