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You have to take this sort of thing seriously. It is a must.

 

She could have a boyfriend or online playmate that got her to do it. It's beyond stupid, it's dangerous and terroristic.

 

No you don't.  It's clearly a silly joke and the airline are stupid to respond.

 

This is similar to the guy who had is life turned upside down when he joked that he would blow up Robin Hood airport if the snow prevented him from visiting his girlfriend.  It was clearly a joke designed to let off steam but the police and the airport decided to waste everyone's time and make some sort of example out of him.  Completely pointless and unnecessarily vindictive.

Here is an update to the story....

 

A Dutch teenager known only as Sarah tweeted a dangerously stupid joke Sunday afternoon, telling American Airlines that she was an al Qaeda member gearing up for a terrorist attack in June. The airline didn't take the tweet in stride; after dressing Sarah down, it proceeded to forward her IP address to the FBI, resulting in her arrest this morning in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. Now, however, other

teenagers have started lobbing bomb threats at American Airlines. Somewhat incongruously, those joking threats spiraled into an explicit photo being tweeted by US Airways in the process.

 

Tweets that mirrored Sarah's original tweet started coming in this morning, aimed at American Airlines (and even others like Southwest) and all as if to dare the companies to report them to the authorities.

 

More...

http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/14/5614534/terror-threat-to-american-airlines-results-in-porn-scandal-on-twitter

 

Probably the best response to a ridiculous situation. 

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take their pc's away and smash them up.

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I am only a year younger than her but I think that is really bad thing to do -_- Theres being pranky then theres being overboard(no pun intended)

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I suggest you need the education.  It is a common name!

Not here it isn't.

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this is why kids need to be supervised when on the web , I worked at an airport hub in the 90's and they have NO sense of humor when it comes to that stuff

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14 is old enough to know whats wrong.  She wanted attention, so give her some, the legal kind.

 

Not really. A 14 years old can't vote, can't drive, can't buy alcohol and can't have legal sex in lot of places. You can't have a double standard. If they are not old and mature enough to vote, drive, drink and **** then they are not old and mature enough to grasp the gravity of what they are doing.

 

It's okay for the police to investigate but it should not go further if there's no proof she was going to act. At the very worst put her on some sort of check list at air ports.

 

Also i hope they did not get her ip from Twitter. It's police job to get such information and if Twitter handled them the info without a proper warrant this is not right at all and this is morally as worse as what she as done.

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Not here it isn't.

 

Anywhere there are Arab or Jewish folks, you'll find plenty of Ibrahim's.  Abraham is actually a westernised corruption of the middle eastern original.

 

If you were as well educated as this Dutch girl, you'd know that. ;)   (Sorry, totally couldn't resist that!)

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Not really. A 14 years old can't vote, can't drive, can't buy alcohol and can't have legal sex in lot of places. You can't have a double standard.

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It's okay for the police to investigate but it should not go further....

In most all of the US the juvenile court judge assigned to the case can cede jurisdiction and allow a minor to be charged as adult.

The lower age limit varies by state but in quite a few this can be done down to ages below 10. In Michigan there is no lower age limit, but the commonly observed limit is 8.

The youngest minor convicted of murder here was 10 when charged, 11 when sentenced.

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In most all of the US the juvenile court judge assigned to the case can cede jurisdiction and allow a minor to be charged as adult.

The lower age limit varies by state but in quite a few this can be done down to ages below 10. In Michigan there is no lower age limit, but the commonly observed limit is 8.

The youngest minor convicted of murder here was 10 when charged, 11 when sentenced.

 

Interesting, but also irrelevant really considering this is in Holland. :p

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Just making the point she's old enough to take FULL legal responsibility so long as the legal system doesn't wimp out.

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Just making the point she's old enough to take FULL legal responsibility so long as the legal system doesn't wimp out.

 

Old enough in the USA.

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Also i hope they did not get her ip from Twitter. It's police job to get such information and if Twitter handled them the info without a proper warrant this is not right at all and this is morally as worse as what she as done.

 

Twitter is free to do whatever they want if they feel the situation warrants it. however it's very unlikely anyone but the police can identify anyone by IP anyway. 

Old enough in the USA.

 

Luckily the rest of the world doesn't use the US "justice" system as a point of reference... well not as a point of reference to imitate anyway. 

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just a teen doing stupid stuff.

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Twitter is free to do whatever they want if they feel the situation warrants it.

 

Where did i say it was illegal ? I said it was not right and morally wrong.

 

Twitter should give info to the police only.

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Just posted something on TFP.....

 

Anyway, hope they dont screw the girls life because of this really really stupid misake.  She is 14 and kids are dumber than ever.  Teach her a lesson and all, but be smart about it.

 

Yup, a severe ticking off and send her home with her tail between her legs.

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Where did i say it was illegal ? I said it was not right and morally wrong.

 

Twitter should give info to the police only.

How is it morally wrong? Someone gave a bomb threat, the threatened company asked for an id and got it(hypothetically, most likely all this was done through the police anyway), it would be more morally questionable if they didn't.

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Not in agreement at all with the people saying she should be treated lightly as she is only a kid.

The sooner she learns the valuable life lesson that actions have consequences, the better.

 

I am also not a proponent of the fact that somehow the internet allows one to do things they normally would never do otherwise.

It is time everyone starts to accept the fact the internet is absolutely a facet of everyday life. What one does on it can and should affect ones life outside of it.

I think once everyone comes to terms with this reality, things will become slightly better.

 

They will always be awful as humans are the base of it at the end of the day, and internet or not, we keep proving our stupidity, however a screen name and a device does not automatically mean all morals cease to exist and there is no such thing as consequences for ones actions.

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There's a difference between not punishing something, and throwing them in jail for 5 years and 14 years old.

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There's a difference between not punishing something, and throwing them in jail for 5 years and 14 years old.

 

I agree.  Too harsh of a legal punishment on a child can have long lasting consequences that really ends up hurting society.  At minimum, we want competent people who obey laws, carry jobs, and ultimately pay their taxes.  Need to be careful when it comes to kids breaking the law not to derail them from that path.  Less they become a burden on society.

 

It sounds like they have already detained her and are aggressively investigating her.  I'm pretty sure she feels the gravity of the situation now and has probably learned her lesson.  No reason to send her to con-college (jail) so that she can come out worse than ever.

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Not in agreement at all with the people saying she should be treated lightly as she is only a kid.

The sooner she learns the valuable life lesson that actions have consequences, the better.

 

I am also not a proponent of the fact that somehow the internet allows one to do things they normally would never do otherwise.

It is time everyone starts to accept the fact the internet is absolutely a facet of everyday life. What one does on it can and should affect ones life outside of it.

I think once everyone comes to terms with this reality, things will become slightly better.

 

They will always be awful as humans are the base of it at the end of the day, and internet or not, we keep proving our stupidity, however a screen name and a device does not automatically mean all morals cease to exist and there is no such thing as consequences for ones actions.

 

a community service type thing would be good, but nothing that would result in a criminal tag on her file.

 

The rest, the copy cats, should be treated harsher. 

 

 

Plus to be fair she BLOCKED the FBI !!!!!

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well the kid did something really stupid and the airliner can't afford to not investigate that thread, i mean if the thread was a real one and if they pass it on, the backlash would be enough for them to go bust.

 

what i don't understand is the dumbness of teens in making such threads on tweeter; sure they think they are consequences for making a thread, aren't they??

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They don't make 14 year olds like when I was a kid.

By that age I'd had my drivers and farm commercial license for 2 years so I could drive cars, big tractors & implements, and deuce-and-a-half etc. to/from the produce market.

I'd been working the farm next to my dad since 8, doing both the fields and livestock, and fully learmed the business side so when he had surgery I took over until he recovered. I was 13.

I was no different than my school peers. We all learned responsibility VERY.EARLY and had NO time or the inclination for stupid s**t like this.

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^ I think she was trying to type Abraham, but she isn't well educated.

 

Sarah needs to be removed from computers & phones.

Sarah needs to be removed from the gene pool

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They don't make 14 year olds like when I was a kid.

By that age I'd had my drivers and farm commercial license for 2 years so I could drive cars, big tractors & implements, and deuce-and-a-half etc. to/from the produce market.

I'd been working the farm next to my dad since 8, doing both the fields and livestock, and fully learmed the business side so when he had surgery I took over until he recovered. I was 13.

I was no different than my school peers. We all learned responsibility VERY.EARLY and had NO time or the inclination for stupid s**t like this.

 

They had tractors that long ago? :p

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They had tractors that long ago? :p

 

He meant Donkeys :p or perhaps those one wheel tractors :p

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