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Titanfall tops chart, but PS4 leads hardware again in March - NPD

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Posted 17 April 2014 - 22:45

While the Xbox One shooter fared well, Sony's PS4 led hardware sales for the third consecutive month in the US, NPD said
 
The NPD Group has issued its March video game sales report, revealing a 28 percent drop in software sales (including PC) to $432 million. Hardware, however, soared 78 percent on the strength of the new consoles, totaling $395 million. Accessories were also up 4 percent to $224 million. Overall, total industry sales increased 3 percent to $1.03 billion.
 
NPD noted that Sony's PlayStation 4 led hardware sales (for the third month in a row) despite the Xbox One exclusive Titanfall topping the games chart. Globally, Sony announced recently that PS4 had surpassed 7 million units sold.
 
Hardware in general put in a robust performance during the last month, boosting the industry year-over-year. "PS4 and Xbox One continue to see success with cumulative sales of the two consoles through the first five months currently totaling more than double that of their predecessors, the PS3 and Xbox 360," noted NPD analyst Liam Callahan.
 
In addition to Titanfall, game sales were driven by Sony's inFamous on PS4, Ubisoft's South Park: The Stick of Truth and Activision's Call of Duty: Ghosts. Check out the top 10 chart below.
 
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Source: http://www.gamesindu...in-in-march-npd

 

XB1 Hardware 

 

Xbox One continues selling at a strong pace with 311,000 units sold in the U.S. in the month of March
We’re also happy to share today that more than 5 million Xbox One consoles have been sold-in to retailers since our launch

 

 

 

FYI sold to retailers is not sold to consumers

 

http://news.xbox.com...x-one-march-npd




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Posted 17 April 2014 - 22:53

I'm more pleased to see FFX/X-2 HD in the top 10. RPGs selling well is a good thing.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 22:54

 

 

 

Source: http://www.gamesindu...in-in-march-npd

 

XB1 Hardware 

 

 

 

 

FYI sold to retailers is not sold to consumers

 

http://news.xbox.com...x-one-march-npd

 

 

Sony reports sold to retailers as well so it's a fair comparison. Dunno why everyone keeps bringing that point up.

 

All numbers looking good though.

 

Should quell any nonsense talk about MS doing poorly for not releasing numbers themselves :rolleyes:



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 22:56

Yes, sold to retailers doesn't mean sold to customers, that's obvious. Regardless retail isn't buying if they're not selling, what the difference between the two is, is a guess but business wise I doubt it's a lot, probably 200k to 400k tops.  I think it's safe to say they've sold through 4.5 million at least.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:01

Sony reports sold to retailers as well so it's a fair comparison. Dunno why everyone keeps bringing that point up.

 

All numbers looking good though.

 

Should quell any nonsense talk about MS doing poorly for not releasing numbers themselves :rolleyes:

 

The most recent figure of 7 million is sold through, not sold to retailers

 

Hi guys! I’ve got a quick update to share with you. Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc. just announced that PS4 has cumulatively sold through more than 7.0 million units globally as of April 6th

 

 

http://blog.us.plays...llion-globally/

 

Not saying they haven't used sold to retailers before, they have, just pointing out where we stand right now.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:07

I have actual sales figures of Xbox from an inside source, 4,792,914 units have been sold to customers as of Tuesday the 15th.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:09

The most recent figure of 7 million is sold through, not sold to retailers

 

 

http://blog.us.plays...llion-globally/

 

Not saying they haven't used sold to retailers before, they have, just pointing out where we stand right now.

 

Right, that's all you're doing...

 

Anyhow, it's all good news, no need to diminish any of it.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:10

The most recent figure of 7 million is sold through, not sold to retailers

 

 

http://blog.us.plays...llion-globally/

 

Not saying they haven't used sold to retailers before, they have, just pointing out where we stand right now.

 

doesn't say anywhere on that page it's to customers.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:18

doesn't say anywhere on that page it's to customers.

 

Sold through means shipped to customers (sold in means shipped to retailers)

 

Tokyo, April 17, 2014 – Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today announced that the PlayStation®4 (PS4™) computer entertainment system has cumulatively sold through more than 7.0 million units*1 globally as of April 6, 2014 (JST), demonstrating the rapid growth of the PS4 platform.

 

 

*1Number of retail sales to consumers is estimated by SCEI. PS4 sales data in Japan collected 2/22/2014 –4 /6/2014. PS4 sales data in North America collected 11/15/2013 – 4/5/2014, in Europe and Latin America collected 11/29/2013 – 4/5/2014, and in Asia collected 11/29/2013 –4/6/2014.

 

 

http://bgr.com/2014/...ales-7-million/



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:25

All I see is estimated numbers, and the sold through seems more to indicate they've sold through that much stock.

 

MS reports numbers they have hard numbers for is that any less right then reporting estimated numbers....



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:31

All I see is estimated numbers, and the sold through seems more to indicate they've sold through that much stock.

 

MS reports numbers they have hard numbers for is that any less right then reporting estimated numbers....

 

You do realize any sort of number reporting like this is classed as estimated? You're never going to be accurate to the last individual sale. A 7 million figure is most likely 7,025,238 or something. But all we ever report to even at the most accurate is the 100,000 decimal. That's only really seen at the start of a generation as well before lapsing to .5 or flat out million markers.

 

MS' sold through reporting is no different than how Sony or Nintendo do it, if you want to start an industry wide conspiracy that the other companies don't do it fairly and only MS do you're best going here. The only thing that differs is as and when PR wants to use sold in versus using sold through (they'll use whatever is most favourable at that given time).

 

As in right now MS' sold through might be nearer 4.5/6 million, but considering this is Titanfall month and they've been outsold, and Sony just announced 7 million sell through days ago, what do you think PR would rather use? If they've got over 5 million units including those in retail it's a bit of a duh what they're going to say given what encompasses a PR job.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:37

You do realize any sort of number reporting like this is classed as estimated? You're never going to be accurate to the last individual sale. A 7 million figure is most likely 7,025,238 or something. But all we ever report to even at the most accurate is the 100,000 decimal.

 

MS' sold through reporting is no different than how Sony or Nintendo do it, if you want to start an industry wide conspiracy that the other companies don't do it fairly and only MS do you're best going here. The only thing that differs is as and when PR wants to use sold in versus using sold through (they'll use whatever is most favourable at that given time).

I think both their numbers are fairly accurate and are indicative of the same stat.  Sony doesn't have a better estimate of how many consumers have in their hands IMO anymore than Microsoft does.  We'll know when these numbers are PR juiced when either company starts talking about sales being insert % over the last month to make it seem huge without naming a specific number.

 

In my opinion Microsoft needs to slowly bring back their original vision of what they intended with the Xbone, down to the game sharing and not needed the disc anymore if you don't want to.  They also need to leverage the console's power as effectively an alternate cable box and sign some deals with Comcast and other companies.  Sign a three year contract get a Xbone for $200 or $300, whatever.  It'll put the systems in people's homes.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:40

I think both their numbers are fairly accurate and are indicative of the same stat.  Sony doesn't have a better estimate of how many consumers have in their hands IMO anymore than Microsoft does.  We'll know when these numbers are PR juiced when either company starts talking about sales being insert % over the last month to make it seem huge without naming a specific number.

 

That's never been said in here, both are just as accurate as each other, but both will know an estimate for what has been sold to consumers, and what has been sold to consumers PLUS what inventory they have in retail. One figure would include units currently unsold. Those units will imminently sell, duh, but at the point of having to release a figure going with the later always sounds better. Why not always do that you say? Well, people know what both mean and if you're selling a lot to consumers at a fast rate there isn't any real need to use sold in - It's more so used as we currently see as a PR tool.

 

It's not a new way of reporting so I don't know why anyone wants to get up in arms (especially at me just for reporting it and explaining what it means). It happened all of last generation as well, especially early days for the PS3 with Sony reporting sold in to try and make the PS3 sound like it was selling faster than it was.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:50

Can't believe Ghosts is #4 in list of new games sold still. Can't really blame them for churning those games out over and over.



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Posted 17 April 2014 - 23:57

So how many units did Sony sell in the US for March? I see it says it outsold the X1, but what is the specific number? Surely Sony will release the exact numbers for the US since they are doing so well. More to brag about.

We know the worldwide figure from Sony but not the US numbers. So its hard to make an apples to apples comparison between it and the X1. The ps4 is higher, but how big is the difference?

Still, the sales numbers seem good for the X1, so wouldn't everyone agree that is a good sign? Combine that with Titanfall topping the charts and maybe its a positive sign. MS mentioned that worldwide, sales are outpacing the 360 at the same point in its life by 60%, so that's a good trend.

Someone had posted a comparison in the PS4 sales thread that showed how much it was outselling predecessors including the WiiU over similar time frames. Based on these new numbers for the X1, it seems that the X1 required 4 months to pass what the WiiU did in a year and the ps4 required 2 months. Those kinds of sales is pretty impressive.

It's also interesting that it seems Titanfall is doing well, even against Infamous, but we will see what the next month shows. Maybe Titanfall wasn't doing bad after all.