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#1 GotBored

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 15:17

Microsoft's Xbox One Sold Just 1.2M Units To Retailers In Q3, Dips Below Xbox 360 Rate.

http://www.forbes.co...-xbox-360-rate/

 

Microsoft’s sell-through to consumer rate as of January 1st was 3/3.9M, so about 77%. Assuming that rate is still about the same (it could have gone down because of being post-Christmas, or up because of Titanfall), that means about 3.85M Xbox Ones have been sold to date, with about 924K sold in the last quarter. In that case, in Q3 Sony’s system sold three times as much as the Xbox One to consumers. It’s entirely possible that Sony sold more PS4s in one month than Microsoft did in the whole quarter.

 

*Above quote is based on 5 Million Xbox Ones sold to retailers announcement from Microsoft*

 

The common refrain heard at this point in the analysis is that at least Microsoft is dramatically outpacing the Xbox 360 at its launch. Even if they’re behind Sony, the console market has expanded so much that the system is a hit regardless.
 
That’s true, to a point. The Xbox One is outselling the Xbox 360 right now, with 5 million shipped compared to 3.2 million shipped over the same period for each console. But that said, this new 1.2M Q3 number now actually puts the Xbox One below the pace of the 360, at least for the quarter. The 360 sold 1.7M units to retailers in Q3 after launch in 2006, while the Xbox One is rather far behind at 1.2M. The One is still ahead overall, but that could change in time if a disparity like this continues to exist, or worse, grows.

 




#2 trooper11

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 15:56

Well now that the X1 has fallen behind the 360, time for a serious reaction.

The bad news just keeps rolling on.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:01

Well now that the X1 has fallen behind the 360, time for a serious reaction.

The bad news just keeps rolling on.


Yes, it's so terrible :rolleyes:

Or maybe perhaps there was just more demand for 360s in Q3 because you couldn't find them immediately after launch, unlike the Xbox One. Do you seriously buy into this drivel? Hell, the top quote is based on an assumption known to be false, yet they still used it. Even at the low end, we're looking at 4.2 million sold through, not 3.85, and that's just doing the simple math of 3+1.2.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:06

the 360 was also globally available at that point I believe. 



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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:18

I know numbers matter to an extent.  The more people that have the console, the more content gets made for it.

 

But lets be honest, all these news sites are gonna take what they want from the announcements and spin it to the way they want and publish it.  Remember for sites like, Forbes, N4G, Gaf, etc,  CLICKS = $$$

 

 

I've seen this scenario before.... At my age, I've seen it a lot.  It's all Cyclical.



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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:28

Not surprising.  Using an X1 currently is like downgrading from the 360.  Why I kept my 360.



#7 bjorndori

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:29

It's useless to compare these 2 launches as there was virtually no competiton against Xbox 360 at launch, many people did not want to wait for a whole year for PS3 so they jumped ship and bought Xbox 360 instead.

 

Now with such a strong contender (the ps4) and extremely negative bias in the media, it is amazing to see how well Xbox One is selling regardless! In fewer markets and at a great disadvantage because of the higher price.



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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:31

I know numbers matter to an extent.  The more people that have the console, the more content gets made for it.

 

But lets be honest, all these news sites are gonna take what they want from the announcements and spin it to the way they want and publish it.  Remember for sites like, Forbes, N4G, Gaf, etc,  CLICKS = $$$

 

 

I've seen this scenario before.... At my age, I've seen it a lot.  It's all Cyclical.

 

Gaf doesn't publish news :laugh: And N4G is an aggregate site, they don't publish news either AFAIK.



#9 trooper11

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:38

the 360 was also globally available at that point I believe.


Well that would make some difference, but a lot of people downplay that as having any impact.
 
 

Gaf doesn't publish news :laugh: And N4G is an aggregate site, they don't publish news either AFAIK.



That's funny, because people post stuff from Gaf all the time as if it is a news site. So maybe its not officially a news site, it gets treated like one.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:39

I know numbers matter to an extent.  The more people that have the console, the more content gets made for it.

 

But lets be honest, all these news sites are gonna take what they want from the announcements and spin it to the way they want and publish it.  Remember for sites like, Forbes, N4G, Gaf, etc,  CLICKS = $$$

 

 

I've seen this scenario before.... At my age, I've seen it a lot.  It's all Cyclical.

 

Forbes has no advertisements on its site, so Forbes can't make money creating click-bait. Forbes is a big magazine firm which reports on business news and financial information.

 

I'm actually surprised you haven't heard of them and considered them a click-bait type company.



#11 Andrew

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:39

That's funny, because people post stuff from Gaf all the time as if it is a news site. So maybe its not officially a news site, it gets treated like one.

 

Then you're reading it wrong :p



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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:43

Yes, it's so terrible :rolleyes:

Or maybe perhaps there was just more demand for 360s in Q3 because you couldn't find them immediately after launch, unlike the Xbox One. Do you seriously buy into this drivel? Hell, the top quote is based on an assumption known to be false, yet they still used it. Even at the low end, we're looking at 4.2 million sold through, not 3.85, and that's just doing the simple math of 3+1.2.


I'm not sure how else to take this news. I would love to be positive about the whole thing, but how can you do that when the constant drum beat is negative?

I'm certainly open to reasons that this time around could be different and so the numbers aren't so bad, but how in the world can you get past the collective negative spin that you see now?

People in this very forum have mentioned that even if the X1 is outselling the 360, the news is not good because of how far behind it is compared to the ps4. Now if the idea is that the X1 is no longer outselling the 360, those points become even more powerful.


Then you're reading it wrong :p


You mean they are reading it wrong :p

The people that post topics referring to 'news' from Gaf seem to treat the site differently then say you would.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:43

People in this very forum have mentioned that even if the X1 is outselling the 360, the news is not good because of how far behind it is compared to the ps4. Now if the idea is that the X1 is no longer outselling the 360, those points become even more powerful.

 

Hope you're not including me in that "people" group, because you have misunderstood/read my posts ;)

 

 

You mean they are reading it wrong :p

The people that post topics referring to 'news' from Gaf seem to treat the site differently then say you would.

 

The only time it can be considered news is when a developer makes a post there, seeing as many of them are members. Other times it is when an ordinary member finds something and it becomes a rumour/leak. Otherwise, it's not different to Neowin forums.



#14 trooper11

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:45

Hope you're not including me in that "people" group, because you have misunderstood/read my posts ;)


Nope, your immune from such things.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 16:45

Not surprising.  Using an X1 currently is like downgrading from the 360.  Why I kept my 360.

I think this and the fact that there have been continued price cuts from the retail end of things, that it would lead consumers to maybe hold off until there are more games, patching, and maybe a price drop.

 

I feel the limited release is really hurting them though; the new Kinect is cool and all, but is it really worth shooting yourself in the foot over? That's my only question really, considering speech recognition I mean.