simonlang Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 i am running oracles virtualbox on xubuntu and downloaded win 8.1 x64 today to give it a try. after creating the virtual machine booting from the image starts but it wont even load to the setup but crashes .... :rofl: not surprised by this, but any ideas why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 WTB more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 what details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted April 25, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted April 25, 2014 What kind of error messages do you see when the setup crashes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 no messages. it just shows the blue windows logo and the circle beyond it and halfway through it crashes and the vm quits and then in virtualbox it just says "aborted". i have preconfigured the virtualmachine to be suited for win 8.1 x64..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 What does crash, the OS you're trying to virtualise, the virtual machine, VirtualBox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted April 25, 2014 Author Share Posted April 25, 2014 its probably the os crashing, since virtualbox keeps running... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aergan Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Try removing any assigned network adapters until after setup has completed. https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57893 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 Try removing any assigned network adapters until after setup has completed. https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57893 this seems to be part of the solution because from then on the loading screen stays much longer. however, the loading circle still goes only through halfway, my hdd is running wilde and loud and after 15mins where i could hardly move the mouse cursor i had to press the reset button on my pc. ram is 4gb, cpu amd athlon II x2 250 hdd is 320 gb with about 110gb of free space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) ram is 4gb, cpu amd athlon II x2 250 hdd is 320 gb with about 110gb of free space. Could be part of the problem... Edit : Yes, i'm very serious. Edited April 26, 2014 by Raa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 Could be part of the problem... are you serious? i know windows is a monster when it comes to system specs and eats away all it can get, but i remember win 7 running very well on this system, the virtual box assistant even suggests only 2gb ram and 50 gb or so hdd space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aergan Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 On an Athlon X2, you're limited to Windows 8 as Windows 8.1+ does not support the emulation of certain DEP related instruction sets: https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-confirms-some-older-amd-processors-do-not-support-windows-81 This will also affect virtualisation. DKAngel 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member Posted April 26, 2014 Member Share Posted April 26, 2014 On an Athlon X2, you're limited to Windows 8 as Windows 8.1+ does not support the emulation of certain DEP related instruction sets: https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-confirms-some-older-amd-processors-do-not-support-windows-81 This will also affect virtualisation. He is using an Athlon II X2 though which should be fine (it's distinct from the Athlon X2). It's newer than the stuff listed in the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 btw i thought cpu should be relatively irrelevant when running a virtual machine? also i cant find win 8 all links redirecting to 8.1 now :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member Posted April 26, 2014 Member Share Posted April 26, 2014 btw i thought cpu should be relatively irrelevant when running a virtual machine? also i cant find win 8 all links redirecting to 8.1 now :/ They aren't irrelevant because the vast majority of virtualization solutions use hardware virtualization instead of emulating the instruction set (it is faster and simpler). That being said, I could see them emulating the particular missing (compare and swap) instruction in this case. EDIT: actually on second though, that might be more difficult than I was thinking at a cursory glance. It would get into flushing cache lines so nevermind. EDIT2: I also cannot find the ISO being hosted anywhere officially. Apparently MS never had DigitalRiver host them either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkWiz Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Are you running latest version of virtualbox ? Also, can you check if the ISO file being used is not corrupted ? Also, check this, https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/11899 might be related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aergan Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 He is using an Athlon II X2 though which should be fine (it's distinct from the Athlon X2). It's newer than the stuff listed in the article. True, misread the II part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 Are you running latest version of virtualbox ? Also, can you check if the ISO file being used is not corrupted ? Also, check this, https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/11899 might be related. i am running version 4.3.10, downloaded the iso file several times. i gave about 5 different linux distributions in virtual box a try - they all run fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkWiz Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 From where did you download ? best thing you can do to test is, write the iso to usb and boot your machine from it or maybe write it to a dvd. Since you dont see any error its difficult to figure out, whats wrong exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaphat (Myles Landwehr) Member Posted April 27, 2014 Member Share Posted April 27, 2014 From where did you download ? best thing you can do to test is, write the iso to usb and boot your machine from it or maybe write it to a dvd. Since you dont see any error its difficult to figure out, whats wrong exactly. He could just verify the hashes; for official media that information should readily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted April 27, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted April 27, 2014 Thread closed. We can't support issues with pirated/unlicensed software. No Illegal Software/Copyrighted Discussion. Discussions involving warez, cracks, security circumvention, using torrents for downloading copyrighted or illegal material is strictly prohibited. This includes music files or other unauthorized software. Asking for help in doing so will cause warns or suspensions of accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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