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Hi, well my new case came in today and the short version is: I carefully placed all the components, power supply, mobo, video card into the new case, reconnected all the cables (double-checked everything)... apparently I did mix up the power and reset button cables, but the only thing I see wrong with that is the reset button turns the computer on and the power button apparently has no function for now. Anyway, I tried connecting my usually DVI to monitor, no signal at all. I connected HDMI to a LCD TV, nothing, I connected one of the old little blue monitor cables to the monitor from before straight from the mobo to the monitor, no signal (the video card is out at this point).

 

So --> Video Card to Monitor via DVI = no signal

So --> Video Card to LCD TV via HDMI = no signal

So --> MOBO to Monitor via "little blue" VGA? cable = no signal

So --> MOBO to LCD TV via HDMI = no signal

 

Ideas, where might I have gone wrong somewhere?

 

I was very careful during the entire "transplant," but I am not beyond considering that something might have been damaged.

 

Any help is appreciated, thanks either way.

 

It is a Gateway Model SX2840, was in a small form factor case originally, moved to a regular desktop size case I had and now to this new, bigger case.

 

Minor details:

 

- my secondary HDD failed recently (It was a Seagate, which had failed before a few years back and was a brand new replacement, few more years I've had this one and it failed again.

- unrelated to failure, my cat spilt a glass of milk near the OPEN side of the case and some drips did make in there, I immediately shut it down cleaned up anything I saw, waited a few hours and turned it back on, all has been working fine for over a week. (this incident IS mostly what prompted me to get a new case with a proper side panel.

- I have never "changed" power on/off connectors before, I just carried over the old ones always, but this time, as I stated above, I did use the ones which came with this case and obviously got a few wrong though I took pictures of the original color scheme and labeling and positioning.

- not sure what other relevant info there could be --- any monitor just remains blank, no signal.

 

Some of this info regarding the Video Card has changed, I have been using an HD7950, but all the original gateway processor and memory and such is untouched

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might be some short. Try to do this:

- unplug all the components.

- assemble the bare minimum for the computer to run (no HDD, ODD or external video card). Check for any bleep or LED blinking.

- is there video out? if not then BIOS Reset (check manual but a simple removing the CR battery is enough).

- is there video out? If yes then start connecting the components, one at a time.

 

I think it's a short or some cable isn't connected correctly and your mainboard isn't working property.

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might be some short. Try to do this:
- unplug all the components.
- assemble the bare minimum for the computer to run (no HDD, ODD or external video card). Check for any bleep or LED blinking.
- is there video out? if not then BIOS Reset (check manual but a simple removing the CR battery is enough).
- is there video out? If yes then start connecting the components, one at a time.

I think it's a short or some cable isn't connected correctly and your mainboard isn't working property.


I will try this and update, thanks for the info.

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might be some short. Try to do this:
- unplug all the components.
- assemble the bare minimum for the computer to run (no HDD, ODD or external video card). Check for any bleep or LED blinking.
- is there video out? if not then BIOS Reset (check manual but a simple removing the CR battery is enough).
- is there video out? If yes then start connecting the components, one at a time.

I think it's a short or some cable isn't connected correctly and your mainboard isn't working property.

I dont know what manual to use or where to find an exact one for this board. But i disconnected all non essential hardware, tried, no signal.

This may sound psychotic... But screws dont play any part in anything electrical do they in any mobo screwing down situation you are aware of? Using special ones special coated or size or those little standoffs supposed to be certain kind of material or something??

Removed batrery, tried WITHOUT battery, no signal, replaced it and tried again, no signal. Guess i still need to verify resetting bios as per manual instructions.

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To reset BIOS, all you need to do is remove battery for a few minutes, seems like you already did that.

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To reset BIOS, all you need to do is remove battery for a few minutes, seems like you already did that.


I will try again leaving out for 10 minutes see if theres any difference

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To reset BIOS, all you need to do is remove battery for a few minutes, seems like you already did that.


Nothing, no change

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There may be a short somewhere. Try taking it out of the case, set it on top of some cardboard, and try running it with only essentials (CPU, RAM, PSU, etc.)

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There may be a short somewhere. Try taking it out of the case, set it on top of some cardboard, and try running it with only essentials (CPU, RAM, PSU, etc.)


I just tried that actually but i have a thought. One, did you read above? Because i took out that battery in hopes of resetting the bios to go through vga output but does hat mean at this point if i connected a video card and tried to get signal from there it would definitely not work since it has been reset to default?


Also, i read that removing the memory is an additional step in verifying possible shorts. I will take out ram too on my next attept.

Thanks for all the help so far guys

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did you connect all the cables correctly? like the PWR, PWR RESET, PWR LED and so on? If it's not that (and excluding any possible short from any screw) then i guess the board is dead; maybe when you did your upgrade some static killed the board :/

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did you connect all the cables correctly? like the PWR, PWR RESET, PWR LED and so on? If it's not that (and excluding any possible short from any screw) then i guess the board is dead; maybe when you did your upgrade some static killed the board :/


I reset the ram in their slots and finally that did it, but possible issue with card??

I believe so, i have now got windows to load, i get one beep and then two beeps and then windows starts. If i put the video card in and power to it even without trying to output through it the screen remains blank. Could this be because i reset the bios?

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There may be a short somewhere. Try taking it out of the case, set it on top of some cardboard, and try running it with only essentials (CPU, RAM, PSU, etc.)

So i have image now going through motherboard vga, i think maybe a ram module was dislodged during transplant but now im am not 100 percent sure the video card wasnt a culprit as well (it is currently taken out). Since we "reset" the bios is there anything i need to do to go through the process of testing this video card now? Should i uninstall all the software related to it and sort of start fresh? When i got the card i never had to mess with the bios, do you think this time around i may need to since we messed with it?

Windows and all loads fine by the way and also thanks for all the help.

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This has nothing to do with software. This is a hardware fault.

 

Just to verify, after you put in your graphic card, did you move the cable to it? When a PCI-e or any video device is inserted, onboard video turns off.

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This has nothing to do with software. This is a hardware fault.

 

Just to verify, after you put in your graphic card, did you move the cable to it? When a PCI-e or any video device is inserted, onboard video turns off.

 

yes, but with some boards on must manually check in BIOS to not use the onboard video (only saw that happening in a crappy ASRock some years ago).

 

I reset the ram in their slots and finally that did it, but possible issue with card??

I believe so, i have now got windows to load, i get one beep and then two beeps and then windows starts. If i put the video card in and power to it even without trying to output through it the screen remains blank. Could this be because i reset the bios?

 

If you can test your graphics card in another computer. The beeps (1 long, two shorts) means VIDEO FAILURE; if you are hearing those beeps without any graphics cards connected then it's mainboard problem.


So i have image now going through motherboard vga, i think maybe a ram module was dislodged during transplant but now im am not 100 percent sure the video card wasnt a culprit as well (it is currently taken out). Since we "reset" the bios is there anything i need to do to go through the process of testing this video card now? Should i uninstall all the software related to it and sort of start fresh? When i got the card i never had to mess with the bios, do you think this time around i may need to since we messed with it?

Windows and all loads fine by the way and also thanks for all the help.

 

This is not a software problem; if you are having problems in the POST then it's not Windows (or other OS) related.

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So i have image now going through motherboard vga

Check your DVI cord and make sure one or more of post aren't broken.

 

dvi-config.jpg

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Unproperly seated RAM can have strange side effects. Doesn't mean that the vid card is necessarily dead. Try using it while you have the MOBO out of the case on the cardboard. Remember: always try the simple things first, especially related to hardware. I'd be willing to bet that the problem is solved.

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This has nothing to do with software. This is a hardware fault.
 
Just to verify, after you put in your graphic card, did you move the cable to it? When a PCI-e or any video device is inserted, onboard video turns off.

  

yes, but with some boards on must manually check in BIOS to not use the onboard video (only saw that happening in a crappy ASRock some years ago).
 

 
If you can test your graphics card in another computer. The beeps (1 long, two shorts) means VIDEO FAILURE; if you are hearing those beeps without any graphics cards connected then it's mainboard problem.
 
This is not a software problem; if you are having problems in the POST then it's not Windows (or other OS) related.

  

Check your DVI cord and make sure one or more of post aren't broken.
 
dvi-config.jpg


Will check through each of these and report back, thanks everyone.

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Everything seems to be working fine now, video card outputting fine, only one regular startup beep.

My last u related tid bit has to do with this new case and the two included (mounted) fans and where to connect them. I hvae no three pin lookiing connectors on my mobo anywhere (micro atx) but many spares on my psu, guess i need to "hardwire" to psue with some sort of adaptors?

Thanks for everything everyone

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Would 3 pin to molex be the correct solution? The plug on the fans dont have pins they have the part that fits over the pins so would that still work with these ?

Or i guess i entirely replace the length of cord with this so called adaptor, i see how that might work.

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Everything seems to be working fine now, video card outputting fine, only one regular startup beep.

My last u related tid bit has to do with this new case and the two included (mounted) fans and where to connect them. I hvae no three pin lookiing connectors on my mobo anywhere (micro atx) but many spares on my psu, guess i need to "hardwire" to psue with some sort of adaptors?

Thanks for everything everyone

 

you will need this:

P3317a.jpg

that adaptor is very cheap. So what it was the problem then? bad mounted hardware (RAM) or bad connected cable?

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you will need this:
P3317a.jpg
that adaptor is very cheap. So what it was the problem then? bad mounted hardware (RAM) or bad connected cable?


Ah okay, thank you. Yes I SUPPOSE only a single stick of RAM was slightly dislodged in the transfer. In removing then and reseating them i couldnt believe how firmly i had to press to seat them properly!

Thanks again all

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well bad connected RAM can give all sorts of quirks.

Glad to help.

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My guess is that you didn't connect all of the power cables.  There is a smaller one that goes near the CPU.  Is it connected.  Also make sure all of the screw thingies that you screw the motherboard into are at the wrong place.  Having one where it shouldn't be can cause a short. Are you hearing any particular beeps or just the fans turning on?

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All fixed problem solved -- dislodged RAM

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