mudslag Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 And even to this day we constantly misinterpret and mess up stories that only happened 250 years ago, they're still just going to be sifting through stories written hundreds of years ago and deciding which ones were "true". I don't understand how they can be an authority on the matter. Not disagreeing, just pointing out the discrepancy in that previous comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisp Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I think the devil is bang out of order! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakem1 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I love it when religious folk try to sound authoritative. This is the equivalent of arguing over a lost chapter of Harry Potter. Pusska In Boots, cacoe, Gerowen and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingroach Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 As a Muslim; I find this version more believable than the traditional version. According to Islamic tradition this is what happened to Jesus (That he never died and will come back later) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_Jesus'_death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 The historical Christ was not crucified -- he lived on in India for many years later. 2000 ? This was known at least 30 years earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark-Heart Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Very surprised that the catholic church didn't suppress this going public... as they have a HABBIT of covering things up, throughout history. Hum 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Well, in another 2000 years people will be arguing over Lord of the Rings and the Dragonlance Sagas. Frodo taking the ring to Mordor (did he really? what about that apocryphal text where he marries Sam?)... the Cataclysm... was Raistlin a prophet? Or a god? And the ball of nonsense will keep rolling. Alera and sanctified 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S. Veteran Posted May 6, 2014 Veteran Share Posted May 6, 2014 As a Muslim; I find this version more believable than the traditional version. According to Islamic tradition this is what happened to Jesus (That he never died and will come back later) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_view_of_Jesus'_death. In this you stand in opposition to the vast majority of historical and biblical scholarship which view the crucifixion of Jesus as a firmly established fact, backed by all credible Christian and non-Christian sources of the time, and you base that on a single book written many centuries later. Anyway, it appears that this particular document isn't the Gospel of Barnabas as I quoted earlier. DConnell 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKay Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Well, in another 2000 years people will be arguing over Lord of the Rings and the Dragonlance Sagas. Frodo taking the ring to Mordor (did he really? what about that apocryphal text where he marries Sam?)... the Cataclysm... was Raistlin a prophet? Or a god? And the ball of nonsense will keep rolling. Hey at least the Church sermons about the Battle of Helms Deep and Minas Tirith will be interesting :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S. Veteran Posted May 6, 2014 Veteran Share Posted May 6, 2014 Off-topic posts were moved to the Official Religion Thread. The topic is a particular document. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolol Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Similar to the Islamic belief about Jesusbelief that jesus do not cruxified are not unique to islam, there are christians cult/heresy that predates islam also share similar views, i read that islamic view about jesus are influenced by it. and to the ancient book, the book using gold-lettering, that something that popular in islamic caligraphy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Qur'anwhich make me suspect that the book are actually newer than what originaly (2000 - 1500 years ago) touted, and hence a forgery to undermine the christian control at that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted June 11, 2014 Global Moderator Share Posted June 11, 2014 In this you stand in opposition to the vast majority of historical and biblical scholarship which view the crucifixion of Jesus as a firmly established fact, backed by all credible Christian and non-Christian sources of the time, and you base that on a single book written many centuries later. Anyway, it appears that this particular document isn't the Gospel of Barnabas as I quoted earlier. i gotta ask. where's the proof of this established fact? ive certainly never seen proof that there was a historical Jesus at all... Also, Christianity and the Bible are just re-hashed stories of fake events that happened hundreds and thousands of years prior. TPreston, Ice_Blue and Astra.Xtreme 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-scratch Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 here we go again with this b.s Astra.Xtreme 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrobwx71 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Very surprised that the catholic church didn't suppress this going public... as they have a HABBIT of covering things up, throughout history. I didn't read this part in the Lord of the Rings? Although they do live in a hole so a certain amount of covering is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre S. Veteran Posted June 11, 2014 Veteran Share Posted June 11, 2014 i gotta ask. where's the proof of this established fact? ive certainly never seen proof that there was a historical Jesus at all... There is multiple independent attestation of that fact by contemporary sources, both Christian and non-Christian. To put things in perspective, the crucifixion of Jesus is established by more evidence than most events of Antiquity considered to be known historical facts. The myth theory of Jesus appears to still be popular in the public opinion, but has almost no adherents today among professional historians and Bible scholars. Hum 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Well, in another 2000 years people will be arguing over Lord of the Rings and the Dragonlance Sagas. Frodo taking the ring to Mordor (did he really? what about that apocryphal text where he marries Sam?)... the Cataclysm... was Raistlin a prophet? Or a god? And the ball of nonsense will keep rolling. There is a huge difference. Christ was based on real events, Yes, a big myth has evolved, but there is meaning behind the story. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 i gotta ask. where's the proof of this established fact? ive certainly never seen proof that there was a historical Jesus at all... Also, Christianity and the Bible are just re-hashed stories of fake events that happened hundreds and thousands of years prior. What proof is there that you exist ? All I see is text on a screen . ;) TPreston and DConnell 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted June 11, 2014 MVC Share Posted June 11, 2014 Also remember the Bible was compiled by the Council of Nicaea. A lot of the old testament from the Jewish Torah, and new testament from writing thought to be from the disciples and stories that could not be confirmed (back then) but conveyed the message they wanted to tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Very surprised that the catholic church didn't suppress this going public... as they have a HABBIT of covering things up, throughout history. So does the USA government on the UFO subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 So does the USA government on the UFO subject. UFO's don't exist. The US government knows -exactly- what they are! They're IFO's. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cacoe Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 i gotta ask. where's the proof of this established fact? ive certainly never seen proof that there was a historical Jesus at all... Also, Christianity and the Bible are just re-hashed stories of fake events that happened hundreds and thousands of years prior. What proof is there that you exist ? All I see is text on a screen . ;) Don't worry Jason, I have faith that you're not a bot ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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