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John Teacake

Secure File Storage - host it in RAM

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I don't understand why this isn't a bigger thing than it is....I was just thinking of this earlier....

 

So the likes of Dropbox,Mega, Insert Cloud Hosted Storage name here. They all store data on physical disks presumably.....

 

Why not run multiple instances (Maybe as a VM) of any Live CD OS. Host whatever content you want in a RAM disk. If the federalis want to come and check out your server estate for whatever reason. Leaking some corporate documents etc etc then just reboot the host or cut the power (To the server or to the building if it came to it). Everything is gone without a trace. Obviously if it got "big/popular" then you would need TB's or RAM but then again that is moot because it would be popular aka making money and also the cost of tech is becoming ever cheaper. We are closer to Virtual Server Farms with physical servers and 512GB RAM as it is anyway. If you make it exclusive to start with then starting out with say 500mb of storage enough to hold enough corperate sleaze for a few weeks/months of press anyway. You could have multiple VM's running a CD Based OS Hosting your files but not big enough to host any pirated content anyway so that eliminates that problem. This isn't what it would be used for anyway.... Obviously if it got rebooted everything is lost but something tells me that you wouldn't care about that because your not hosting a eCommerce site this way. 

 

Thoughts? 

 

Think Dropbox mashup Wiki Leaks Running in RAM. 

 

 

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If you can't see why this is a bad idea, then I won't taker the time to enlighten you, but it is a really bad idea 

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You have the added bonus if any Three letter agency raided the place you were hosting this, They wanted to seize the equipment they would have to power down the equipment and the rest is history. Literally.  :shiftyninja:

 

Think of it as a One Time Pad (Server)

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And if your power goes out, your files disappear. Not a good backup solution.

If you're that concerned about a three letter agency, then you're better off keeping your files in local storage.

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And if your power goes out, your files disappear. Not a good backup solution.

If you're that concerned about a three letter agency, then you're better off keeping your files in local storage.

 

Yeah I don't think that's the point. 

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You might want to read more on what heartbleed did also....

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Yeah I don't think that's the point. 

What is the point, then?

 

[Emphasis mine]

 

I don't understand why this isn't a bigger thing than it is....I was just thinking of this earlier....

 

So the likes of Dropbox,Mega, Insert Cloud Hosted Storage name here. They all store data on physical disks presumably.....

 

Why not run multiple instances (Maybe as a VM) of any Live CD OS. Host whatever content you want in a RAM disk. If the federalis want to come and check out your server estate for whatever reason. Leaking some corporate documents etc etc then just reboot the host or cut the power (To the server or to the building if it came to it). Everything is gone without a trace.

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This is done on one email service I know of.
The reason no-one bothers to do it is because of the RAM retention rule, when you power off your PC, RAM contents is not lost, and yes, it is entirely possible to recover all contents of files that were in the system RAM after it's been off, and the FBI/etc. have been doing this for years already.

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This is done on one email service I know of.

The reason no-one bothers to do it is because of the RAM retention rule, when you power off your PC, RAM contents is not lost, and yes, it is entirely possible to recover all contents of files that were in the system RAM after it's been off, and the FBI/etc. have been doing this for years already.

 

Yep you have to hit it with liquid nitrogen  :D

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The reason no-one bothers to do it is because of the RAM retention rule, when you power off your PC, RAM contents is not lost, and yes, it is entirely possible to recover all contents of files that were in the system RAM after it's been off, and the FBI/etc. have been doing this for years already.

 

Unless you kill it with fire.

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Unless you kill it with fire.

Then you'd get charged with tampering with evidence.

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Then you'd get charged with tampering with evidence.

 

 

Haha and/or probably arson. that said a nutjob I worked with once told me he used to keep det cord running between his ram, and his hdd's so if he ever needed to he could do a small explosion on em and call it a day.

 

No idea what he was in to..but I did back away slowly!

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Haha and/or probably arson. that said a nutjob I worked with once told me he used to keep det cord running between his ram, and his hdd's so if he ever needed to he could do a small explosion on em and call it a day.

 

No idea what he was in to..but I did back away slowly!

 

Was your friend called Mel Gibson?

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Could always have your systems HotPlug 'd...

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I'll just remind you that researchers have successfully retrieved data (including private keys) from memory before.

And no, I don't mean flash ram. :p

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Ridiculous cost, and the potential of being sued if you lose data which is an inherent possibility.

While the first solid state drives were actually made out of ram, it's simply not a sustainable solution for large scale data storage.

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