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Tennessee brings back electric chair

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Violent criminals such as murderers, rapists, child molesters, do not deserve mercy.  What if it was "your" kid that was raped or murdered, or both, by one of these monsters?  Think of what that child went through.  If they can be proven guilty beyond the shadow of a doubt, I say execute them in the quickest, cheapest way possible so they can stop draining resources from the society they can't be turned loose in.  It's not lowering yourself to remove a parasite so the rest of society doesn't have to support them, it's a logical solution to a problem.  If they cannot be turned loose because of the damage they have and would cause, then why waste tax dollars giving them food, clothing, free health care, etc. for the duration of their natural lives?  Even if they don't get "life", do you really think they'd be able to re-integrate after 20+ years of total isolation from normal society?

 

However, I have not witnessed an electrocution, but it does seem a little bit extreme to me.  If I was going to execute somebody, I would just put one bullet through the back of their skull.  Instant, cheap, and effective.  You don't have to worry about whether or not they're suffering, how you're going to get the ammo, or anything else.  When a bullet rips through your brain stem, you're done.

 

Anyway, that's how I feel about it.  I realize different people from different parts of the world feel differently, but in our society, we're still very big proponents of erasing violent scumbags from the earth instead of letting them hang around and consume resources.

 

Regardless of what they've done, I don't think a Government should ever have the right  to end somebodies life, their one single chance of existence against their will, ever. 

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A criminal who, having renounced reason ... hath, by the unjust violence and slaughter he hath committed upon one, declared war against all mankind, and therefore may be destroyed as a lion or tyger, one of those wild savage beasts with whom men can have no society nor security....Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed.

John Locke, his Second Treatise of Civil Government (the "Father of Liberalism")

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They're almost as good as armchair experts who think they know all about other people's life experiences.

Lol...

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All methods used in America are barbaric and inhumane. It reflects really badly on the American people who permit it.

 

The alternative is to put the convict into a small chamber filled with nitrogen. He will pass away painlessly, without even feeling panic. This method has been well tested on animals and even a British MP tested it (televised) and was rescued seconds from death.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7183957.stm

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Most animals are slaughtered with a bolt pneumatically driven into their skull.  Death is instantaneous.  The method is virtually fail proof.  It is baffling to me why we unnecessarily convolute and overly complicate the process of execution.

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Other way is to make the prisoners do the drug & medical testing, this will accelerate the research that will benefit the society eventually.

 

 

Jesus mate, if there's one thing worse than execution, you found it.

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There are numerous, nearly instant, methods that would stop their clocks and inhaled anesthetics to put them under with if that's considered necessary. Hell, put them under then switch from O2 to high dose carbon monoxide.

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"Tennessee brings back electric chair"

 

Where was it?

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In storage, unused after lethal injection came into use. Unfortunately lethal injections weak links are the drug supply and the injection itself. Some folks veins don't cooperate or the person was an addict and they blew out most all of them.

Many addicts end up injecting between their toes, women inject the veins in their breasts and men inject the veins in their erection.

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Executions by State is just legal murder, who has the right to pull the switch that kills another human? Just as you don't have that right neither should the State.  At lease in some countries they get the victim's family to perform the execution and some cases even allow them to pardon the prisoner. 

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Executions by State is just legal murder, who has the right to pull the switch that kills another human? Just as you don't have that right neither should the State. At lease in some countries they get the victim's family to perform the execution and some cases even allow them to pardon the prisoner.

In virtually all of the US states you can shoot or otherwise dispatch of someone in the commission of, or fleeing after, a violent crime. All that varies are the definitions of when or where.

If the individual can in those circumstances, why not the state as punishment for particularly heinous crimes?

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In virtually all of the US states you can shoot or otherwise dispatch of someone in the commission of, or fleeing after, a violent crime. All that varies are the definitions of when or where.

If the individual can in those circumstances, why not the state as punishment for particularly heinous crimes?

There is a difference between those 2 scenarios, but I don

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We'll have to disagree then.

Also, under our laws self defense extends not just to "family" but third parties, and it doesn't have to be a lethal attack. Serious bodily harm and sexual assaults are also covered.

So, if a CPL holder comes upon a crime like a robbery, beating or sexual assault they can use force to stop it. Covered under the citizens arrest and other statutes.

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We'll have to disagree then.

Also, under our laws self defense extends not just to "family" but third parties, and it doesn't have to be a lethal attack. Serious bodily harm and sexual assaults are also covered.

So, if a CPL holder comes upon a crime like a robbery, beating or sexual assault they can use force to stop it. Covered under the citizens arrest and other statutes.

 

Self-defence is a completely different situation to the planned execution of a criminal for things he's done.  You cannot compare the two.

 

Also, consider the number of innocent people your states have executed, or tried their damnedest to execute after faking evidence and so on (don't try to deny it, you know it happens), execution is the LAST thing you should be doing.  You can't give back someone's life after you've taken it.

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Of course you can compare the two. Execution is both punishment and a societal self defense against future risk.

A living murderer in prison can still pose a risk to others; the prison staff, other prisoners or society should they escape - and some do. These risks are very real, Better to off them.

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IMO murderers, rapists, child molesters and the don't deserve good treatment, but they don't deserve death either.

 

Errr yes they do. Child molesters especially deserve the most excrutiatingly slow and painful deaths imaginable.

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Sending a child molesters & killers to prison usually results in one of two outcomes,

1) execution by their fellow prisoners - typically a very painful one, or

2) solitary confinement 23 of 24 hours, 365 days a year to prevent 1). Even then they may be offed in the showers.

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Of course you can compare the two. Execution is both punishment and a societal self defense against future risk.

A living murderer in prison can still pose a risk to others; the prison staff, other prisoners or society should they escape - and some do. These risks are very real, Better to off them.

 

Complete and utter nonsense.

 

Sorry Doc. I respect you, but you're way off on this one.

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First understand that many murderers eventually get out of prison. Parole, dealing down for a lighter sentence to save the cost of a trial etc.

In some states a "life" dentence is effectively 20-25 years, and due to many factors they may get out in less than 10.

This does present a future risk.

As to the death penalty, 63% of our country disagrees with you; as of 2013 80% of conservatives, 65% of independents and 51% of liberals approve of the death penalty (Gallup)

The political split Gallup has recorded for several years running floats around 40% conservative, 35% independent and 21% liberal.

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All methods used in America are barbaric and inhumane. It reflects really badly on the American people who permit it.

 

The alternative is to put the convict into a small chamber filled with nitrogen. He will pass away painlessly, without even feeling panic. This method has been well tested on animals and even a British MP tested it (televised) and was rescued seconds from death.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7183957.stm

Although he used it to dispose of bodies,Bricktop's version (the movie Snatch) would be great for the child molesters.

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First understand that many murderers eventually get out of prison. Parole, dealing down for a lighter sentence to save the cost of a trial etc.

In some states a "life" dentence is effectively 20-25 years, and due to many factors they may get out in less than 10.

This does present a future risk.

As to the death penalty, 63% of our country disagrees with you; as of 2013 80% of conservatives, 65% of independents and 51% of liberals approve of the death penalty (Gallup)

The political split Gallup has recorded for several years running floats around 40% conservative, 35% independent and 21% liberal.

 

Then fix your incarceration system so that doesn't happen.  Stop throwing people in jail for petty things like smoking a joint and reserve it for those who're truly a cancer on society.

 

Just because one part of your system needs work, that's no good excuse to kill people.

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