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#1 Ironman273

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:07

Great artists steal: The iOS 8 features inspired by Android
A lot of the WWDC announcement seemed awfully familiar to Android users.
by Ron Amadeo - June 3 2014, 9:00pm EDT
 

Apple has taken the wraps off iOS 8, its newest mobile operating system, at its WWDC keynote. There were lots of new features added to iOS, but any observer familiar with Android saw quite a few things that seem... familiar. That's because many of Apple's announced upgrades were things the Android OS has boasted for years.

Typing suggestions
 

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The iOS 8 Keyboard bar (left) looks just like Android.

Apple added a little bar of suggestions to the top of the keyboard, which Android had (initially as an option) since the introduction of the on-screen keyboard in Android 1.5. While Android's keyboard just blindly does word pairs, iOS 8 seems to be able to intelligently offer suggestions in response to an "A" or "B" question. In the example, a friend asks about "dinner or a movie." Without typing anything, iOS offers "A movie," "Dinner," and "Not Sure." If this actually works reliably, it's a big step above the Android keyboard. Of course, we're just comparing this to the standard Google Keyboardavailable through Google Play. That's not the only typing solution on Android, which brings us to...

Third party keyboards

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Even the warning messages are similar.

Apple finally relinquished its grip on the system keyboard, allowing third parties to replace Apple's solution with something of their own. This was another thing Android had with its initial implementation of on-screen typing in Android 1.5. Apple even showed off an iOS version of Swype, one of the most popular third-party Android keyboards. We've already heard from Swiftkey, the other most popular Android keyboard, that it is working on a system-wide iOS 8 version too.
 
Until now, third-party iOS keyboards could only work as a standalone app with their own typing interface. For instance, Flexy could only work in the Flexy app, not in any other app. Flexy made a workaround for this with an API that other apps could plug into, but this required developers to add support on an app by app basis. (Flexy has also announced that it will be adapting its keyboard to use Apple's new APIs.)

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Android Keyboards: Swype, 8pen, Minuum and Dasher.

With user-replaceable system-wide keyboards, iOS users should be in for a wild ride of text input nirvana. Opening up the keyboard to third parties on Android has enabled tons of innovation, sometimes very useful (like Swype) and sometimes downright weird. Even users that don't switch to a third party keyboard will eventually see a benefit as, like Google, Apple will be able to see which keyboards become popular with users and adopt some of those ideas (like Swyping).

 

Go to Source (Ars Technica) for more...




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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:18

Oh, look, another article that cannot grasp the fact that there are not out-of-thin-air advancements in technological industry but instead we have procedural implementations, some dating back to mechanical and analogical principles made in the 19th century.

 

Everyone "steals", ergo no one "steals".

 

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:35

anyone who thinks like this is an idiot, nothing is brand new...



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:37

Apple steals from Android and Microsoft. Android steals from Microsoft and Apple. Microsoft steals from Apple and Android.

 

Except it's not so much "stealing" as it is "implementing good ideas."

 

And at the end of the day, it's the consumers who win. Because whether you prefer iOS, Windows Phone or Android, you get a better product in the end.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:44

anyone who thinks like this is an idiot, nothing is brand new...

 

 

Apple steals from Android and Microsoft. Android steals from Microsoft and Apple. Microsoft steals from Apple and Android.

 

Except it's not so much "stealing" as it is "implementing good ideas."

 

And at the end of the day, it's the consumers who win. Because whether you prefer iOS, Windows Phone or Android, you get a better product in the end.

 

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 04:56

I'd be interested to know how many features Apple stole from Google who stole from 3rd party apps.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 05:04

With people stealing ideas like these, it'll be good in the long run.

 

People stealing ideas and making them better has been happening for years. I realized this when I learned of the story of barbed wire. The guy who invented it took the idea from farmers who would take nails and hammer them through boards diagonally to criss cross each other so when a cow leaned on the fence, it would poke them to make them back off. So, this guy came up with barbed wire, which only had 2 sharp ends. Then another guy came out with 3 sharp ends, etc, etc.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:18

The problem is not stealing (or copying or taking inspiration from), but patents and "IP" of exceedingly trivial things. Whoever run first to the bureau, just might sue those who didn't manage. Do expect it.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:24

The only thing here is that Apple says others copy them. The others just do it. Apple wants to play the angel, while others copy.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:41

The problem is not stealing (or copying or taking inspiration from), but patents and "IP" of exceedingly trivial things. Whoever run first to the bureau, just might sue those who didn't manage. Do expect it.

That's a good point.  If Google did come up with some amazing new idea in Android... they should have patented it.  

 

The problem is... you can't actually patent an idea.  You can only patent a specific implementation of an idea.  I.E. how it works.... not the final result. I believe two companies could both patent basically the same thing... but achieved in different ways.  We've seen how complicated some patent applications are for something that seems so simple in the end. There's a lot of technical jargon describing how it works.

 

Originally... patents protected inventions... not ideas.  And I think you actually had to have a working example of your invention.

 

But software patents don't follow the original spirit of the patent office... and thus the whole system is a mess right now.

 

You can patent just about anything.  And most companies do (or should)

 

I know people think Apple "copied" or "stole" pulldown notifications and other things from Android... but did Google have any patents on them?  Maybe they should have. (I honestly don't know if they did)



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:53

LOL, Eric Bangeman.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:07

The issue isn't that Apple is lifting ideas from Android, it's that Apple sues companies at the drop of the hat for violating its absurdly generic patents and tries to block competitor's products from sale. It's completely hypocritical and anti-competitive.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:37

The issue isn't that Apple is lifting ideas from Android, it's that Apple sues companies at the drop of the hat for violating its absurdly generic patents and tries to block competitor's products from sale. It's completely hypocritical and anti-competitive.

 

Well that's the patent system for you. They're just following established rules and procedures. Apple sues Samsung, Samsung sues Apple. It's the environment that's been created that makes it so easy to pick on others or be picked on yourself.

 

I don't blame the companies for behaving how they do, they're protecting their own interests within the playing arena and the rules that have been laid out.

 

Ultimately it's the patent system that needs to be reformed before this madness can be controlled.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 10:44

Well that's the patent system for you. They're just following established rules and procedures.

That's not an excuse. Killing a baby wouldn't suddenly be acceptable if the law against it was abolished. What Apple is doing is wrong, regardless of whether the system accommodates it. The reason the system is such a mess is because of companies like Apple abusing it.



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 10:46

Oh not this again.

 

In terms of OS features everyone takes ideas from each other and impliments them in their own way.  Android do it, so do Apple.

 

Get over it and move on.  People should just be thankful that Apple have put so much effort into making it a much more open platform.