Gerowen Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI) ? An attempted home invasion turned into a murder investigation Tuesday morning. One suspect is dead and another is in critical condition after allegedly holding a gun to a teen?s head. St. Louis police are releasing chilling details of a late night shooting in south St. Louis that left one person dead, another injured and a neighborhood shaken up. Source with more and video Update Father Speaks Out About It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysonacoffebreak Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I would do the same without hesetation when someone would hold a gun to my family. Unobscured Vision, Anibal P, The Evil Overlord and 2 others 5 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 I'm curious to hear what the reasoning was when the one that survived gets out of the hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Don't break into people's houses and don't point guns at people. If that's too hard to live by, you're asking for it and sometimes you get it in full - BAM! And good riddance. Nogib, +Anarkii, Anibal P and 6 others 9 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Doesn't this come under the Castle Doctrine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McKay Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Doesn't this come under the Castle Doctrine? Well of course it has to be investigated, or anyone would be inviting people they dislike over and murdering them under the guises of "he invaded my house!" astropheed and KingCracker 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Yup. Even here the prosecutor would investigate. Then the homeowner would get a medal. Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Seems like the title to the news article was just for clicks. It makes it appear as if the father shot them because of the gun to the head. (note, I did not read the followup so not sure if the dad argues against what I just typed). Title of article could be "Man shoots armed men attempting to enter house" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja502 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I'm curious to hear what the reasoning was when the one that survived gets out of the hospital. there was off there meds or was only kidding around with the guy, they never done or hurt any one before type BS 100% support the dad and both them crooks should of been carried out in a bag Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 100% support the family, but that was also pretty brazen. He must shoot often to have had the confidence he wouldn't have hit his daughter. Unobscured Vision 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kronckew Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 the racist tea-bag shooter violated the human rights of the poor young teenager, a local entrepeneur and up-and-coming buisnessman, without even reading him his rights and asking him to drop the gun and discuss it peacefully. the distraught families of the murdered youth should post photos of him from his elementary school yearbook and tell the media what a good boy he was, and that the gun was only a bottled soft drink that fired skittles. they should sue him, his family, the state and local authorities, the gun manufacturer and ammunition maker, president obama, john kerry and hillary clinton for not writing an executive order deleting the second amendment. the hispanic looking shooter obviously had decided to shoot the poor innocent black child well in advance shortly after he mistakenly assumed his daughter was being disresepected and thus it would be pre-meditated 1st degree murder of yet another black youth by a whitey. even if it turns out he was black himself. hang him for owning a gun in the first place. i'm sure the child, was an A-student, and had good intentions and that he would have released the girl and they would all have a good laugh about it over a beer if he had not over reacted and killed the poor honour student and ex-football star without warning. yet another reason why people should have their rights to self defence removed completely. that's the police's job. if he had waited and called the police after it was over rather than shooting one more life would have been saved. the shooter didn't even sing kum-by-yah or put a flower in the poor baby's gun before violating his rights to self expression. the police would have arrived eventually to handle the situation, and after filling out all the paperwork, and filling the 4 body bags with the family, called the coroner while putting out an APB for the unknown suspects who got away. they might even have caught them. remember, when seconds count the police are only minutes away. oh. i forgot to blame GWB in there. take it as a given. LakeRat, bradsday, Unobscured Vision and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 the racist tea-bag shooter violated the human rights of the poor young teenager, a local entrepeneur and up-and-coming buisnessman, without even reading him his rights and asking him to drop the gun and discuss it peacefully. > remember, when seconds count the police are only minutes away. oh. i forgot to blame GWB in there. take it as a given. All oh so true. And nice shootin' dad (y) Unobscured Vision and Ph1b3r0pt1c 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unobscured Vision Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 All oh so true. And nice shootin' dad (Y) Don't forget, the shooter, the home invader, and the teen were ALL off-medication at the time of the incident. The two survivors are now currently in a local undisclosed psychiatric facility receiving counseling, rehab and strawberry shortcake ... The way the mainstream hype machine has been playing things up as of late, you'd think the above would be in the mix somewhere too. Good shooting on Pop's end. (Y) Ph1b3r0pt1c 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kronckew Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 yep, hitting him with his daughter as a human shield takes not only balls, but a good eye. he must practice a lot. as we should if we want to retain our rights. one thing to remember, if the perp is holding a knife or gun to someone like that, if you shoot them in the head, they will NOT have enough time to pull the trigger or stab before their brain turns to moosh. even if you have to shoot thru the human shield's shoulder to hit him, it's better than the alternative. and never shoot to wound. Anibal P 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xendrome Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 The news source says "Murder" apparently they don't understand the difference between a homicide and a murder. Gerowen and The Evil Overlord 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Obviously. A lot of neowin isers have the same problem. BTW, the best drop shot is to the brain stem. From the front with a level head you target the bottom 1/3 of the nose. From the side, level with the center of the ear. Nogib 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Obviously. A lot of neowin isers have the same problem. BTW, the best drop shot is to the brain stem. From the front with a level head you target the bottom 1/3 of the nose. From the side, level with the center of the ear. Well of course, according to the Left the father should have called the police and let the criminals rape, murder, and pillage the property, the only ones with the "right" to shoot to kill are cops, that they will likely show way too late to of any real use just means the father "deserved" for it to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 BTW, the best drop shot is to the brain stem. From the front with a level head you target the bottom 1/3 of the nose. From the side, level with the center of the ear. As someone from the UK the thought of how best to kill someone has never crossed my mind and I think that speaks to the sheer difference in mentality between the two cultures. I don't have to fear armed intruders breaking into my house. FloatingFatMan 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Obviously. A lot of neowin isers have the same problem. BTW, the best drop shot is to the brain stem. From the front with a level head you target the bottom 1/3 of the nose. From the side, level with the center of the ear. Y'know Doc. I like you, I respect you. I think you're a very intelligent and insightful man. But you also scare the crap outta me sometimes... bradsday, theyarecomingforyou, MikeChipshop and 1 other 4 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 As someone from the UK the thought of how best to kill someone has never crossed my mind and I think that speaks to the sheer difference in mentality between the two cultures. I don't have to fear armed intruders breaking into my house. It really doesn't. One person cannot represent a culture, ours or yours. Were that the case, I'd assume Americans in general are murderous thugs and that UK'ers are a tranny loving society. Neither are true of course. Good thing we don't judge a nation on what we read or see on the internet and news. Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Y'know Doc. I like you, I respect you. I think you're a very intelligent and insightful man. But you also scare the crap outta me sometimes... Just stating what is taught in many defensive shooting and combat tactics classes, most all taught by cops or former cops. 99% of the time you go for center of mass, easier shots, but sometimes you need an instant switch to turn out the lights. An armed perp holding a hostage, who could block a CoM shot, qualifies. It instantly cuts neuronal signalling to the extremities, meaning they can't shoot, stab or slice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COKid Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Wow, what a depressing way to live. The very fact that some people need to think about the best way to kill someone says volumes about the environment they live in. I moved from Murderapolis, MN in 2008 and I'll likely never live in a big city again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Obviously. A lot of neowin isers have the same problem. BTW, the best drop shot is to the brain stem. From the front with a level head you target the bottom 1/3 of the nose. From the side, level with the center of the ear. Headshots will always be quickest, but I think I'd want a lowlife like that to suffer more.... Liver shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Just stating what is taught in many defensive shooting and combat tactics classes, most all taught by cops or former cops. 99% of the time you go for center of mass, easier shots, but sometimes you need an instant switch to turn out the lights. An armed perp holding a hostage, who could block a CoM shot, qualifies. It instantly cuts neuronal signalling to the extremities, meaning they can't shoot, stab or slice. Nope. Still scary! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermot Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Rather sad existence to live in fear, thankfully I'm not American. It's amusing how these pro liberty Americans keep spitting out the amendments and how owning guns is their right against the government but they're paying the government for them and are regulated by said government and making America one of the biggest gun dealers in the world. Be interesting to get the survivors account of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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