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#1 Sir Topham Hatt

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 15:36

So I am getting back into gaming and have found my Shuttle PC isnt powerful enough with the on-board graphics.
The game, which plays but stutters says:
 
Graphics: 256MB with Pixel Shader 3.0* (AGP PCIe only)
I thought about getting a cheap one from Amazon:
 
The Sapphire 5450 DDR3
 
I should think this will be powerful enough - I can't have a double space one as there is very little space in the shuttle PC.
Are there any others I should consider?
 
Thanks

Best Answer Astra.Xtreme , 17 June 2014 - 16:21

For under £100, your best options are going to be an Nvidia GTX 750 or AMD R7 260X.  The Nvidia is small, single slot, and faster than the 260X, so that one would be the better bet.

 

http://www.amazon.co...eywords=gtx 750

 

http://www.amazon.co...eywords=gtx 750

 

If you can squeeze out a little more in your budget, the AMD R9 270X is a beast of a card and a crazy good deal:

 

http://www.amazon.co...keywords=r9 270

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 16:06

What's your budget?  The 5450 is an old and not very powerful card, so you probably won't be able to get too much out of it.

 

An Nvidia GT 740 or AMD R7 250 would probably be a much better choice.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 16:11

Can get something like this: http://www.ebuyer.co...rd-11215-00-20g



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 16:54

What does the rest of that shuttle pc look like?  Sounds like we are talking one that is more than a couple years old.  What type of games are you thinking about running?  I mean with a 5450 you will be playing only a handful of games and at low settings.  The r7 250 recomended above is twice the price but 5 times the performance and its still not got to run anything more than low settings atleast it will prolly run current games at low settings.  Depending on what the rest of your system looks like

 

 

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Just thought i should ask you DO have a pcie x16 slot inside that shuttle case dont you?



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 17:21

So I am getting back into gaming and have found my Shuttle PC isnt powerful enough with the on-board graphics.
The game, which plays but stutters says:
 

Graphics: 256MB with Pixel Shader 3.0* (AGP PCIe only)
I thought about getting a cheap one from Amazon:
 
The Sapphire 5450 DDR3
 
I should think this will be powerful enough - I can't have a double space one as there is very little space in the shuttle PC.
Are there any others I should consider?
 
Thanks

 

If you have room for a dual-slot PCI-Express card, strongly consider a GTX750 or GTX 750Ti.

 

Yes - I know they are nVidia products, and your original choice is AMD - however, hear me out.

 

I used to HAVE an AMD HD5450 in PCI-E trim, and while not a BAD card, is more an entry-level (and I mean BASIC) gaming card - casual games and three years old and older games.  (For that reason, when I upgraded, Mom got it in her refurb HP DC7600.)

 

The replacement in MY PC is a refurbished EVGA GTX550Ti - while it takes up two slots, it's no longer than the HD5450 it replaced.  While it requires a 6-pin PCI-E power feed, such is NOT the case with most GTX750s (and almost half the 2 GB GTX750Tis - which regularly whack the GTX550Tis like mine messily around).

 

Other options are GTX650 and GTX660 - especially if your power supply is less than 600 watts (mine is 600 watts even).  (Again, most of these require - at most - a single 6-pin power feed.)



#6 Andre S.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 22:15

The Sapphire 5450 DDR3

 
I should think this will be powerful enough - I can't have a double space one as there is very little space in the shuttle PC.
Are there any others I should consider?

Powerful enough for what? You mention "gaming" but not what games and what resolution you use. Consider that this was a low-end card in 2012, i.e. it was barely ok for playing older games, back then. If you're expecting to play contemporary games on that then you'll be disappointed.

 

I suggest you check out Tomshardware recommendations for entry-level video cards and go with one of these.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 22:22

OP wants to play games on a Shuttle? Unless that he wants to play something light and it doesn't make the Shuttle overheat with it then fine.

 

Else, good luck.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 22:22

I purchased an R7 260X and don't regret it one bit. It was cheap and runs everything I throw at it really well. It was around $150 at the time.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 22:26

guys, OP has a Shuttle, it's very limited and lacks space. It's something like this:

shuttle-sa76g2.jpg

 

So without knowing the Shuttle model, the games OP wants to play and the resolution of them throwing GPUs is kinda pointless, eh?



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 22:40

Right. There aren't many good single-slot, low-profile graphics card to find; Sapphire used to make an HD 7750 which you might be able to buy used, that would be a decent deal. I'm not aware of any more recent cards that would fit that particular bill.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 22:43

 

I thought about getting a cheap one from Amazon:
 
The Sapphire 5450 DDR3

 

Unless you're playing facebook games, you're going to want something a lot more poweful than that card. It's the lowest of low end and although you might see a bit of a performance boost while using desktop apps in any version of Windows since Vista (because of dwm), you're not going to really gain any 3D graphics advantage with that card.

 

It's really meant to be a low end addon card for a media centre PC, so you can watch HD videos and stuff on other lower end hardware.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 22:45

 I can't have a double space one as there is very little space in the shuttle PC.

 

Does it have to be both single-slot and low profile?

 

At least newer shuttle cases can house a dual-slot full-height card easily.

 

http://us.shuttle.co...c/SZ87R6_us.pdf

 

http://us.shuttle.co...c/SX79R5_us.pdf



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 22:55

This is the best low profile single slot card I could find:

 

http://www.ncix.com/...-90957-1470.htm



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 23:01

There's also the nVidia GTX 650 if you can find it anywhere in stock. Benchmarks seem to show it as being around twice as powerful as the R7 240, although it seems to require twice as much power too. Just throwing options out there.

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814500290

 

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#15 OP Sir Topham Hatt

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:35

Wow!

 

Thanks so much for the responses, it has given me a lot of food for thought.

 

I have the Shuttle SZ68R5 (click here for images), which can hold a graphics card.

 

My budget is less than £100.

 

I don't mind whether it's ATi or NVIDIA.

 

Processor is an Intel i5, ram is 8GB, liquid cooled processor.  The biggest resolutions would be the 1680 x 1050 I currently have on the desktop, although some games may want 1920 x 1080.

 

The three most powerful games I play (and would play) are: The Sims 3 (and 4 when it comes out - for the GF :p), Team Fortress 2 and Red Alert 3, which my current set up plays the latter fine anyway.  So for this, I didn't think I would need a particularly powerful graphics card and although the case can support dual slot graphics cards, I wasn't looking to fill both slots as it'll be a slight squeeze:

 

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But if it's hard to get a single slot card that won't melt these days then I can go double - perhaps a similar card to what Mark suggested above, the Asus nVidia GeForce GT 640?

 

Thanks :)





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