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Well gee Google announced a lot of new stuff. I wonder how Microsoft is going to copy them. Oh wait...

 

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I'm glad Google beat Microsoft to all this new emerging technology.

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OMG my eyes I'm blind

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AOL should sue both Microsoft and Google for stealing their design. AOL probably wouldn't win, but at least people would learn that they still exist!

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Good one...

 

All this who copied who bitching and moaning going on is getting old.  You claim so and so copied so and so, and someone can provide info that it was done way before. 

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At least Google's has shading and is not high contrast.

 

But I'm not a fan of over-simplification of a UI and all eye candy over function.

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I'm glad Google beat Microsoft to all this new emerging technology.

 

Does MS have a smartwatch?  Does MS have Glasses?  Does MS have a smart car?  Need I go on?  Google beat MS to a lot of things as well as MS beat Google.  And it takes one company with the power to push a design or tech forward.  This is what MS is doing and how the industry works.  MS has the user base to make things standard and push these forward.  People will adapt to tiles....just not as quick as MS hoped.

 

As far as people saying "Well tiles are accepted everywhere else but Windows, well...MS really shoved the tiles down people's throats and gave them little options. Why MS is making changes to the OS.  And displaying movies in a rectangular format showing the box art, well that is nothing new either and NOT tiles period.  Netflix has been displaying their movies on their site like this for years.  And TVs and DVD players have been displaying things in squares for years as well. 

 

And all a tile/square is an enlarged interactive icon really.

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Does MS have a smartwatch?    Does MS have a smart car?  Need I go on? 

 

Uhhhh, yeah they actually had a smart watch years back.  My Mustang has Microsoft software in it as well as any of the millions and millions of Fords on the road for the last 6 to 7 years..... lol 1 Smart car...... 

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iirc MS buy tons of AOL patents about the time Microsoft release the Win 8.0,

rumors have it that it was that aol-kid picture that helps smoothen the deals because at that time Microsoft hastily need to bury AOL capability to sue for look-and-feel infringement.

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My Mustang has Microsoft software in it as well as any of the millions and millions of Fords on the road for the last 6 to 7 years..... lol 1 Smart car...... 

 

Software in a car does not make it a smart car.  Lots of other things that go in to it.

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Uhhhh, yeah they actually had a smart watch years back.  My Mustang has Microsoft software in it as well as any of the millions and millions of Fords on the road for the last 6 to 7 years..... lol 1 Smart car...... 

 

Ms Sync is crap, you'd be better off with Symbian instead, this is also why so many manufacturers jumped on the Android Car as fast as they did, the alternatives were not worth it 

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So, does Android for the car run on Blackberry's real time os as well?

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techbeck, on 26 Jun 2014 - 08:03, said:

Software in a car does not make it a smart car.  Lots of other things that go in to it.

I completely understand that it doesn't make it a smart car,  Microsoft's software however exists in millions of cars on the road today (as buggy as it can be to some).   Google's prototype micro car isn't something that one can go out and buy, and even if you could....Why?

 

To go back to the original post and the tiles it is akin to the South Park episode, where the kid keeps telling Butters "Simpsons Did it".  At this stage of tech development ideas are continually rehashed hence the constant patent fights and someone probably already did it many years ago.

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The resemblance is so striking. Especially the live tiles with notifications wow.


Software in a car does not make it a smart car.  Lots of other things that go in to it.

Read the features listed on this page, along with the feature videos. Tell me if it sounds smart to you.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/windows-embedded-automotive-7.aspx

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My point with all of this was that Microsoft gets a lot less credit that it deserves, from consumers, and especially from the media, but when Google or Apple does something Microsoft has done, they get all the credit, and the people arguing with me prove my point of the under appreciation of what Microsoft has done to inspire others to create new innovative experiences. I'm not blaming Google or Apple for copying, copying is a must to iterate upon to create enhanced experiences, but news reporters, at least give credit when deserved.

 

I've seen many news sites guilty of this, saying Google or Apple's UI started the web flat UI trend without even mentioning Microsoft. I've seen news articles asking Microsoft to step up to the plate with a health service, even when they have HealthVault. People have acclaimed Android's new game achievements, etc, but they dismissed Windows Phone's Xbox integration as useless.

 

I'm sick of this bias against Microsoft. Don't deny everything Microsoft does as horrible, and acclaim Apple and Google for introducing 'new' technology without even mentioning Microsoft's prior technology.

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Can the car drive itself?  No, so it is unlike Google's car thus being new.

Not to pick nits, but Google's hardly the first at making a self-driving car, not really new either.

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Not to pick nits, but Google's hardly the first at making a self-driving car, not really new either.

 

I know.  I was replying to a sarcastic comment made about Google beating MS with emerging tech.

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My point with all of this was that Microsoft gets a lot less credit that it deserves, from consumers, and especially from the media, but when Google or Apple does something Microsoft has done, they get all the credit, and the people arguing with me prove my point of the under appreciation of what Microsoft has done to inspire others to create new innovative experiences. I'm not blaming Google or Apple for copying, copying is a must to iterate upon to create enhanced experiences, but news reporters, at least give credit when deserved.

 

I've seen many news sites guilty of this, saying Google or Apple's UI started the web flat UI trend without even mentioning Microsoft. I've seen news articles asking Microsoft to step up to the plate with a health service, even when they have HealthVault. People have acclaimed Android's new game achievements, etc, but they dismissed Windows Phone's Xbox integration as useless.

 

I'm sick of this bias against Microsoft. Don't deny everything Microsoft does as horrible, and acclaim Apple and Google for introducing 'new' technology without even mentioning Microsoft's prior technology.

I disagree.

 

There's plenty of praise for Microsoft too. And plenty of criticism against Google/Apple.

 

Look at the history of OSs for example. Even though Microsoft 'copied' the GUI, Bill Gates decision to integrate the menu bar in a window (instead of being static at the top of the screen) made Windows better functionality-wise from day one. I'd love to ask him what the logic was behind this decision if I ever meet him.

 

Look at the Ribbon interface also - pure genius. It changed everything - the majority of business/pro apps have adopted it.

 

And too the Start menu (back in Windows 95). Compare it with Mac OS back in the day (and even today).

 

Then there was the revolution that was Office back in the 80s/90s. From the start, Office's framework was the best in the industry, and still is.

 

Don't forget about Microsoft technologies (like DirectX and the many components in Windows, which weren't based on past UNIX technologies (like Mac OS X is).)

 

I give high praise to Microsoft in the 80s, 90s and 2000s.

 

The trouble started when they tried forcing users with a new way of using their technology (ie. removal of the Start menu, which millions love). Windows 8 has created two camps: normal (Desktop and sometimes Metro) users, and die-hard Metro fans.

 

People also weren't ready for the massive simplification with UI design (ie. removal of Aero). Many people went back to Windows 7. This is actually a big problem and something Microsoft must address with their next version. These different camps can't exist (they never did in the past). There must be one version that all users are happy with. A theme change for Metro is probably enough for me (a few shadows, transparency and gradients here and there, and rounding off of corners [I expect negativity against what I just wrote, however I enjoy using an artistic OS more (ie. I prefer Windows 7 in part because of Aero]).

 

On the other hand, if it weren't for Google and Apple, who knows what Microsoft would actually come up with (after failing with tablets, phones and watches in the past). So I give credit to all three companies. Be optimistic!

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Microsoft already tried the embedded OS model with CE

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Today's answer to all those comments of "Who would want to copy this?" Google does. 

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