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Saw this beauty @ Micro Center.  Now I dont like my 2560x1440 ASUS I just bought...

 

 

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You're better off with the ASUS.

 

Support for 4K monitors, both by hardware and software, is quite flaky at the moment.

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It looked pretty nice. - and now that Ive had this ASUS for 2 months or so -- Im kinda meh about it.

This is my problem -- I get bored and feel I need to change things



 

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It looked pretty nice. - and now that Ive had this ASUS for 2 months or so -- Im kinda meh about it.

This is my problem -- I get bored and feel I need to change things

 

 

Ship it to my address.

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Wait for the monoprice version for 1/2 price.

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I can't remember, is that monitor running at 30Hz or 60Hz? I did research into that a few months ago :rofl:

 

I remember HDMI before 2.0 didn't like to send 4K at 60Hz so the screen was limited to display port at 60Hz or HDMI / DVI at 30Hz and created an odd flicker

 

I might of been thinking of the lower end Dell 4K screen, they had two or three at the time?

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You're better off with the ASUS.

 

Support for 4K monitors, both by hardware and software, is quite flaky at the moment.

 

You say a 28" TN is preferable to a 32" IPS because @4k fonts etc. are unreadable (tho they look OK to me)?

 

I well heart this Dell!

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Ok ok what's the big deal with 4k monitors?

I don't get it.

Based on my personal experience I own a Dell 24" with 1920x1200 resolution.

All the text and icons are so small and I have to zoom webpages and increase my dpi to 150%.

 

So I suppose, if you use a 4K monitor, things will be much smaller, right?

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Ok ok what's the big deal with 4k monitors?

I don't get it.

Based on my personal experience I own a Dell 24" with 1920x1200 resolution.

All the text and icons are so small and I have to zoom webpages and increase my dpi to 150%.

 

So I suppose, if you use a 4K monitor, things will be much smaller, right?

UltraRetina maaaaannnnnn..... wait *snaps out of the apple marketing hype mode* It's good if you work a lot with graphics mainly vector ones hopefully OS's will scale better...

 

heck I remember when Vista was in alpha and we thought the UI would be Vector based.... everyone was excited... then it came out and it was still raster...

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Ok ok what's the big deal with 4k monitors?

I don't get it.

Based on my personal experience I own a Dell 24" with 1920x1200 resolution.

All the text and icons are so small and I have to zoom webpages and increase my dpi to 150%.

 

So I suppose, if you use a 4K monitor, things will be much smaller, right?

 

Huh? I have a 24" monitor with that resolution (Dell U2412M) and it's the reference size: 96 DPI. That is exactly what 100% scaling in Windows is meant for.

If you think things are too small at that size you really need to get your eyesight checked or you're just sitting way too far. 96 DPI used to be the golden standard for monitors and is what Windows uses as default DPI.

 

I have a 1600x900 panel in my 13.1" laptop (140 DPI) and I love it. Things are a bit smaller, sure, but there's so much space on your display! Multitasking!

 

A good way to check ideal DPI settings is with Word. At 100% zoom the page on your display should be exactly as big as a real page (of that paper size). Or as close as possible anyway.

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I can't remember, is that monitor running at 30Hz or 60Hz? I did research into that a few months ago :rofl:

 

I remember HDMI before 2.0 didn't like to send 4K at 60Hz so the screen was limited to display port at 60Hz or HDMI / DVI at 30Hz and created an odd flicker

 

I might of been thinking of the lower end Dell 4K screen, they had two or three at the time?

 

60Hz - there is no flicker....if you have a hefty video card in there...

 

You say a 28" TN is preferable to a 32" IPS because @4k fonts etc. are unreadable (tho they look OK to me)?

 

I well heart this Dell!

The ASUS he was referring to is not a TN panel - it is the PB278Q

Im hearting the Dell too

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Ok ok what's the big deal with 4k monitors?

I don't get it.

Based on my personal experience I own a Dell 24" with 1920x1200 resolution.

All the text and icons are so small and I have to zoom webpages and increase my dpi to 150%.

 

So I suppose, if you use a 4K monitor, things will be much smaller, right?

I think you should take a crash course on screen resolutions :rofl:

 

Higher DPI means clearer everything. Better graphics in games, better movie quality, better everything.

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Huh? I have a 24" monitor with that resolution (Dell U2412M) and it's the reference size: 96 DPI. That is exactly what 100% scaling in Windows is meant for.

If you think things are too small at that size you really need to get your eyesight checked or you're just sitting way too far. 96 DPI used to be the golden standard for monitors and is what Windows uses as default DPI.

 

I have a 1600x900 panel in my 13.1" laptop (140 DPI) and I love it. Things are a bit smaller, sure, but there's so much space on your display! Multitasking!

 

A good way to check ideal DPI settings is with Word. At 100% zoom the page on your display should be exactly as big as a real page (of that paper size). Or as close as possible anyway.

 

We have the same monitor, I don't think my eyesight is bad, maybe is the distance, I'm sitting one meter away from the monitor. How far are you sitting?

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You're better off with the ASUS.

 

Support for 4K monitors, both by hardware and software, is quite flaky at the moment.

that's not necessarily true. i have a Seiki 4k hooked up to my 680s using 8.1. It works flawlessly.

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I think you should take a crash course on screen resolutions :rofl:

 

Higher DPI means clearer everything. Better graphics in games, better movie quality, better everything.

 

It also makes stuff bigger

 

EDIT 1: Forget what I've said.... I confused Windows 8.1 options with the old Windows XP options...

In Windows XP it was called DPI.

 

 

EDIT 2: I'm confused...

 

http://helpdeskgeek.com/wp-content/pictures/2008/01/dpisettings.JPG

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It also makes stuff bigger

sure, how so?

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sure, how so?

Re-read my edited post.

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Higher DPI on a physical monitor means more pixels in the same amount of space.

 

The way your software handles those extra pixels is up to you.

 

Leave things as they are and everything will be tiny but crisp.

 

You can enable higher DPI options in windows 8. It in theory should make UIs more or less the same size on screen, but the extra pixels continue to keep everything pin sharp.

 

Problem being is that lots of apps ignore DPI settings in windows still. Take chrome for example, blurry as hell :)

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We have the same monitor, I don't think my eyesight is bad, maybe is the distance, I'm sitting one meter away from the monitor. How far are you sitting?

Same here, maybe a little under 1m. If you think things are too small on 100% there really is something weird going on, as things are exactly as big as they're meant to be.

Problem being is that lots of apps ignore DPI settings in windows still. Take chrome for example, blurry as hell :)

Unfortunately, besides Metro which was designed with scaling in mind, all scaling is just handled horribly in Windows. Icons start to look mangled, text becomes too big and too thin, ... It's exactly why I'm not a fan of high-DPI monitors on Windows. If it isn't usable at 100% scaling, I personally would never get it.

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Same here, maybe a little under 1m. If you think things are too small on 100% there really is something weird going on, as things are exactly as big as they're meant to be.

Unfortunately, besides Metro which was designed with scaling in mind, all scaling is just handled horribly in Windows. Icons start to look mangled, text becomes too big and too thin, ... It's exactly why I'm not a fan of high-DPI monitors on Windows. If it isn't usable at 100% scaling, I personally would never get it.

 

Windows handles scaling fine. It's just when programs don't include higher resolution assets or don't handle high DPI at all is when there are problems. Scaling wasn't there from the start so you have these issues. Now that high dpi screens are actually available and in use programs are finally becoming DPI aware.

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Since I cant go pick up the Dell, and Im no longer loving the ASUS, I decided to OC it.

Now its 2560x1440 @ 85Hz as opposed to 60Hz - not sure if it made a difference though :/

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Dell looks good but at that price id have to opt for the LG, infact could just about buy 2 LG's and stack them one above the other...

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Since I cant go pick up the Dell, and Im no longer loving the ASUS, I decided to OC it.

Now its 2560x1440 @ 85Hz as opposed to 60Hz - not sure if it made a difference though :/

 

First I've heard of this.  Why would someone want to OC their monitor?

 

And I have to agree that support for 4K is somewhat flaky at the moment.  There is no cable standard that purports to supporting it through a single channel.  Most of the affordable monitors are TN panels. The windows desktop doesn't play nice with the displays quite yet, as so many apps (including some professional ones) completely ignore the DPI settings.

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First I've heard of this.  Why would someone want to OC their monitor?

 

And I have to agree that support for 4K is somewhat flaky at the moment.  There is no cable standard that purports to supporting it through a single channel.  Most of the affordable monitors are TN panels. The windows desktop doesn't play nice with the displays quite yet, as so many apps (including some professional ones) completely ignore the DPI settings.

People dont see exactly 60 fps - its an average - I understand the difference in semantics between refresh & Hz (CRT & LCD)

If 60 is the lowest you can buy, and 120 looks a lot better --- than one would think anything above 60 would be an improvement.

I have since brought it back down to 60.  I dont know if it was better @ 85 or it was some subconcious part of me thinking it was better....

I know this monitor can do 85Hz - but for now I think I'll stay @ 60Hz.

Honestly, there was a part of my that hopes cranking up the Hz would brick it & I would be forced to get that Dell :D

 

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