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#1 Boz

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 20:28

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When Nokia announced the Android powered Nokia X we weren’t quite sure what to think about it. We’ve long dreamed of the ultra-powerful, ultra-beautiful combination of Android and Nokia but the X simply didn’t deliver. It’s a low spec’d device running a custom version of Android in a cheap body. What we really want is an Android-powered Lumia device. And Microsoft might finally be ready to give it to us.

According to a new rumor out of the one and only evleaks, Microsoft is working on a Nokia Lumia-branded Android device. No other details surrounding the mystery device have been revealed, but there’s really only a couple ways this could turn out. Scenario number one: Microsoft’s Android-powered Lumia could be a beefed up Nokia X. It would run a custom, forked version of Android but come with things like a much better display and high-end camera. Scenario number two: Microsoft’s Android-powered Lumia is a Google-certified device complete with Google Play access and all. Chances are it would still be customized and include a bunch of Microsoft-centric apps, but Google Play access would completely change the appeal of the device.

 

Of course, with this being an unconfirmed rumor, there is a third scenario where Microsoft doesn’t release anything Android powered at all. Either way, we’ll be keeping a close eye out for more details on this rumor.

 

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I'm actually excited about this.. I would love me some beautiful Lumia running latest Android.




#2 Orange Battery

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 21:08

Must admit, MS could have a hugely successful device on their hands if they created a top quality Umia with Android on it.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 21:14

Must admit, MS could have a hugely successful device on their hands if they created a top quality Umia with Android on it.

 

They would amongst the Android community. However I just don't see them doing this, why would they allocate the resources to build something that would directly compete with their own platform. Microsoft is already doing a heck of a lot with WP 8.1 and now the possibility of merging with RT. Remember the Cortana rumor a few weeks ago that was shot down, I see this being the same. 

 

People want the hardware, that I get, but with that hardware comes the OS. Similar to the iPhone, you can't run Android on that. 



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 21:58

Must admit, MS could have a hugely successful device on their hands if they created a top quality Umia with Android on it.

 

With MS's track record for releasing devices, if I wanted an Android I'd just get a Nexus and avoid the hassel of dealing with carriers or importing.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:04

They would amongst the Android community. However I just don't see them doing this, why would they allocate the resources to build something that would directly compete with their own platform.

 

Because their platform is dying? Hardware doesn't mean squat when you are running an OS that nobody uses.

 

Microsoft doesn't lose anything really.. Nokia will make A LOT of money going Android instead of pushing Windows Phone.. they can still offer Windows Phone btw..

 

Microsoft makes money from that as well and offers their productivity suites on Android and iOS anyways..  They have lost the mobile battle. Right now is just making good choices so they don't completely waste their acquisition of Nokia and create compelling enterprise software for Android and iOS.

 

Microsoft's goal was to create a mobile platform, have people tie into Office and their software by using Microsoft based hardware and that plan failed really. Nobody really wants a WIndows Phone and Android and iOS are clear winners. 

 

Microsoft makes money from patent royalties with Android, plus they can push their suites onto both platforms.

 

I fully expect them to shut down Windows Phone in the future and probably sticking with Surface/Desktops approach. Nokia will shift to Android and they will be premier device maker with amazing integration with Microsoft cloud instead of Google. 

 

It completely makes sense. They lost the mobile battle. I think they are just coming to grips with it and going with strategy they should have done 5 years ago.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:07

why would they allocate the resources to build something that would directly compete with their own platform. 

Because a lot of people have a preference on their device's OS... Apple could give me a free iPhone and a few hundred bucks extra and I personally still wouldn't want to use it.  There is no such thing as a product that satisfies 100% of the market, so it would be stupid to ignore it.  Android's going to sell with or without them, may as well cash in on it.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:08

Because their platform is dying? Hardware doesn't mean squat when you are running an OS that nobody uses.

 

Got any statistics to back that up? I was pretty sure Windows Phone was actually gaining traction, but I could be wrong.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:09

Android - Google Services + MS Services...you can see what they are trying to do here.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:13

Got any statistics to back that up? I was pretty sure Windows Phone was actually gaining traction, but I could be wrong.

 

They are stalled.. 3% market share. They are slightly better than Blackberry.. if you think Blackberry is doing well then Microsoft is flourishing. And this is in US btw where they are strongest.. world marketshare is minuscule to non-existent.

 

In essence nobody really uses it. 

 

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Worldwide marketshare

 

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They actually dropped 0.5 point.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:21

Eh, nice to have more choice, but you have companies like HTC that have had Android devices since 2009+ and is struggling at the moment. If these rumors are true, not sure how much traction Microsoft would gain. Their implementation of Android on the Nokia X was just absolute garbage. They better make an attempt if true...



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:24

Eh, nice to have more choice, but you have companies like HTC that have had Android devices since 2009+ and is struggling at the moment. If these rumors are true, not sure how much traction Microsoft would gain. Their implementation of Android on the Nokia X was just absolute garbage. 

 

 

I wouldn't call HTC struggling.. they are doing well.. they are making profit.  Android is great.. it's about making a great hardware..and with HTC One series they turned it around and made a great phone and voila.. they are making profit.

 

Nokia should have done this way before Microsoft fiasco and would have outsold Samsung and would have been number one in mobile market.. especially since they had such strong brand in Europe and around the world. 

 

But they made a huge mistake, went with Microsoft and lost pretty much everything.. But it's still not too late for them I guess.. they'll use Microsoft cloud and services now and produce their hardware. They can still come back.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:25

I have mixed feelings about this. If it is successful, that's great, but at what cost? MS put a lot of effort into Windows Phone and if this does better than their WP devices then you can expect to see them abandon their own mobile OS efforts.

 

On the other hand, if they are able to create an Android phone that runs devoid of any Google services including the Play Store or whatever, but still runs any app I want, I might check it out.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:41

They are stalled.. 3% market share. They are slightly better than Blackberry.. if you think Blackberry is doing well then Microsoft is flourishing. And this is in US btw where they are strongest.. world marketshare is minuscule to non-existent.

 

In essence nobody really uses it. 

 

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They actually dropped 0.5 point.

You forgot this little blurb below that graph:

 

Windows Phone grew 8.7% year-over-year with 7.6 million shipments, almost entirely driven by Nokia. Despite the growth, Windows Phone still only has 2.7% smartphone market share. By dropping its licensing fees the platform becomes much more appealing, in addition to the features that come along with 8.1. Now that the Nokia acquisition is complete all eyes will be on execution and what comes next.

 

Also, WP is stronger in Europe and Asia than it is in the US, still dismal, but definitely stronger.



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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:41

Lately I've been second guessing sticking with Windows Phones. Love the OS, but whenever my friends start using some app and want me to join in I can't. It's not an issue most of the time because I'm not app crazy, but there are a few here and there that would be nice. And then pretty much any integration with any device is delayed/nonexistent. It's a damn shame really. If they put out an Android Lumia I might make the jump. Then again if it keeps growing like it currently is, that'll probably be compelling enough to just get a nicer Lumia WP :p

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 22:46

They are stalled.. 3% market share. They are slightly better than Blackberry.. if you think Blackberry is doing well then Microsoft is flourishing. And this is in US btw where they are strongest.. world marketshare is minuscule to non-existent.

In essence nobody really uses it.


So many things wrong with your posts.

1. Windows Phone is far more popular in Europe in Asia than the US. So no the US is not the strongest market.

2. 3% marketshare doesn't mean they haven't sold any more devices. Someone needs to learn what percentages mean and how IDC calculates things. Is WP growing as fast as Android is? Nope. Does that mean nobody is buying it? Nope.

3. So because they haven't grown as fast as you think they should, they should completely exit the market and give up. Right, it's a good thing you don't run a company then. If MS gave up right now it would essentially mean they are giving up on what is most likely going to be the biggest market in a few years time. And considering they're working on combining everything under a one Windows banner, they're not going to suddenly drop out and start using Android. They would be delusional to do that. According to your logic the only company who should be making a smartphone OS is Google, and what an amazingly ###### idea that is.