+Warwagon MVC Posted July 7, 2014 MVC Share Posted July 7, 2014 Windows XP is no longer supported by Java 8 Why is Windows XP no longer supported? As of April 8, 2014 Microsoft stopped supporting Windows XP and therefore it is no longer an officially supported platform. Users may still continue to use Java 7 updates on Windows XP at their own risk, but support will only be provided against Microsoft Windows releases Windows Vista or later. See Third Party Vendor-Specific Support Terms on Oracle Software Technical Support Policies (pdf) for details. Can I still use Java on Windows XP? Users may still continue to use Java 7 updates on Windows XP at their own risk, but support will only be provided against Microsoft Windows releases Windows Vista or later. Can I install Java 8 on Windows XP? Windows XP users will be unable to install Java 8 on their systems. Windows users must upgrade to Windows Vista or later to install Java 8. https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/winxp.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 people are still using java?? primexx 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrynalyne Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 people are still using java?? Um. Yeah. It is a pretty popular language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Um. Yeah. It is a pretty popular language. caught me by surprise, I haven't installed it since I figured out how to win 7 (as a third party installation I mean, I can't say if anything java based was installed upon installation of 7) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted July 7, 2014 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2014 caught me by surprise, I haven't installed it since I figured out how to win 7 (as a third party installation I mean, I can't say if anything java based was installed upon installation of 7) you obviously don't use Cisco Enterprise products or Oracle... that basically force java on you Raa and The Evil Overlord 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 you obviously don't use Cisco Enterprise products or Oracle... that basically force java on you Which is why we don't use them. Good riddance. The Evil Overlord, Ian W and Raa 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted July 7, 2014 Veteran Share Posted July 7, 2014 Which is why we don't use them. Good riddance. Maybe you don't but large enterprises use them a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerowen Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 people are still using java?? Here and there people still need it. The "Deposit@Home" feature of my bank's website that I use to scan checks and money orders in uses Java to upload and process the scanned images. I don't use it a whole lot besides there and once and a while when I play Runescape, but it is still used here and there. The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 you obviously don't use Cisco Enterprise products or Oracle... that basically force java on you At the risk of sounding like a fearmongerer, I dumped it when rumours were emerging stating negativity about java, in honesty, I hardly ever felt the need to have it or use it, but that's just it, I incorrectly assumed it was all but dead in the home computer market. For that I apologise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) That's okay, I'll keep installing Java 6 for my XP customers! :p But seriously, misleading title is misleading? Java 8 was known not to be XP compatible, Java 6 and 7 are still very common - Java 7 is still the default version offered at Java.com Edited July 7, 2014 by Raa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon H Supervisor Posted July 7, 2014 Supervisor Share Posted July 7, 2014 the only reason i have java installed is because i play minecraft. only minecraft touches it and the browser plugins are disabled from the java control panel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted July 7, 2014 Author MVC Share Posted July 7, 2014 But seriously, misleading title is misleading? What do you mean? :laugh: Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryster Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 What do you mean? :laugh: Because it says "no longer" supported. I think the point he's trying to make is that it never was supported in the first place. By the way. do we know yet how many Java 8 updates there will be before they decide that Java 8 will be the default version offered by Java.com? We're at update 5 already, so it can't be too much longer I imagine. I'd like to ensure all our app vendors are pressurised to ensure their apps are "8" ready asap. Raa 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Warwagon MVC Posted July 7, 2014 Author MVC Share Posted July 7, 2014 Because it says "no longer" supported. I think the point he's trying to make is that it never was supported in the first place. By the way. do we know yet how many Java 8 updates there will be before they decide that Java 8 will be the default version offered by Java.com? We're at update 5 already, so it can't be too much longer I imagine. I'd like to ensure all our app vendors are pressurised to ensure their apps are "8" ready asap. Actually that was a joke. He indicated that the title is wrong because technically 6 and 7 still function on XP. 8 is the only one that wont run, which is why I edited the title. and then asked him what was wrong with the title ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123456789A Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 people are still using java?? people are still using xp?? probably the same people still using java! The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Almost everyone over here uses Java since BankID uses it(as well as both of the other two eID options here) unless you use bankID on phone, which I have on my sim, but the solution is just a lot slower and more awkward so I usually just use the regular Java option. The banks should be rolling out BankID 2.0 early next year though which is plain html5 that'll probably cut Java usage here significantly, and save many computers from ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Which is why we don't use them. Good riddance. You must not work in any enterprise environment, and if you do I can't imagine how your end users must feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Either way, the less support XP receives, the better. Time to ditch that junk, and move on. You must not work in any enterprise environment, and if you do I can't imagine how your end users must feel. Java ranks as one of our main call drivers. You wouldn't believe the things those users say, and what they say once it's remove from their machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Either way, the less support XP receives, the better. Time to ditch that junk, and move on. XP or Java? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 XP or Java? :p Both. :laugh: The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Both. :laugh: darn it, now I can't call you a hater :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Norris Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 people are still using java?? An awful lot of people use Java, many times not even realizing it. There's quite a few programs that rely on it, often times not installed as a global interpreter, just local to the application in question, never mind a gazillion people using it daily on their phones, tablets or other devices, plus networking services obviously. Still quite popular. My condolences to anyone who has it tied into their browser however. Also not surprised to see XP support cut off, that's going to be happening a lot more as time goes on, there's already some big players who have announced their cutoff dates for XP. Dot Matrix and The Evil Overlord 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Red King Subscriber² Posted July 8, 2014 Subscriber² Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Android OS Applications and many Websites use Java. Also, don't forget that there are languages which are built for JVM like Scala. But alas, Java is the language of "where there hell do I find feature Y and why isn't it part of the standard libraries?" so I am in the let it die please camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 But alas, Java is the language of "where there hell do I find feature Y and why isn't it part of the standard libraries?" so I am in the let it die please camp. Java isn't a badly designed language, and if you want to learn object-oriented programming it's actually a very good place to start. Because it is so strict and doesn't use too much syntactic sugar it's very clear and well-defined. And it's simply used tons, especially server-side. Some of the most extensive and powerful web frameworks (Spring for example) run on Java. Or the best search software (Lucene and related software). And a ton of TV set-top boxes run on Java. And almost all featurephones include Java for apps. But anything with a UI basically sucks in Java (and web doesn't count as a UI). Because it always tries to be cross-platform you'll never have it feeling native (besides on Android for example, which uses core parts of Java as a language but is not really Java besides that). And it's a good thing Java in-browser stuff is dieing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Android OS Applications and many Websites use Java. Major reason you'll never see me using Android. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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